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philcski 04-13-2009 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
This is the problem in conventional handicapping. The pacesetter in any other type of race is at a distinct disadvantage. In dirt horse racing, with all the biased tracks and other factors, the speed has the advantage. Handicappers come up with creative ways to justify this as it's the 'norm' for them. When fair racing comes along, like what's happening in CALI, KEE, and elsewhere, they don't know how to deal with it. DIRT reigns supreme and what's actually fair racing, POLY (all artificial surfaces) is DEBASED.

Go figure.

As for me, CALI racing, and all other artificial track racing, MAKES SENSE.
Not true.

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Originally Posted by CSC
Acoma is one that comes to mind, she's won on dirt/synth/turf and she is by Empire Maker.
Name the only filly to win a G2 on dirt, G1 on turf, and G1 on synthetic in the same year.

Sightseek 04-13-2009 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by philcski
Not true.



Name the only filly to win a G2 on dirt, G1 on turf, and G1 on synthetic in the same year.
Forever Together?

CSC 04-13-2009 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Forever Together?
I don't remember Forever Together winning a grade 2 on dirt...Since I don't like cheating, did she?

philcski 04-13-2009 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Forever Together?
Nope. She's only run once on synthetic and was mediocre at best on dirt.

The Indomitable DrugS 04-13-2009 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CSC
I don't remember Forever Together winning a grade 2 on dirt...Since I don't like cheating, did she?
yes

CSC 04-13-2009 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by philcski
Nope. She's only run once on synthetic and was mediocre at best on dirt.
Was she trained by Frankel?

philcski 04-13-2009 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by CSC
Was she trained by Frankel?
No.

Although I think I was unfair to Forever Together- she was decent on dirt, decent enough to win the Forward Gal. Just not spectacular like she is on turf.

philcski 04-13-2009 11:41 AM
Another clue, she is by far the leading money earner for a sire who has his 4th crop as 2yo's this year.

SniperSB23 04-13-2009 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by philcski
Name the only filly to win a G2 on dirt, G1 on turf, and G1 on synthetic in the same year.
:rolleyes: Still think she was better than Rags?

The Indomitable DrugS 04-13-2009 12:03 PM
Panty Raid?

Sightseek 04-13-2009 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
It's the West Point filly that beat Rags. I can't for the life of me remember her name though.
Edit - Lear's Princess

Antitrust32 04-13-2009 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
It's the West Point filly that beat Rags. I can't for the life of me remember her name though.
Lears Princess

SniperSB23 04-13-2009 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Panty Raid?
Yeah, Phil had a sick love affair with her.

Sightseek 04-13-2009 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Not her, I think Kiaran McLaughlin trained her. She beat Rags in the Gazelle and then was awful in the Breeders Cup at Monmouth. I think Coa rode her.
I went back and edited to Lear's Princess....unfortunately it's the over-rated Pansie Raid who is the answer.

CSC 04-13-2009 12:11 PM
It had to be a Pletcher or Frankel.

The Indomitable DrugS 04-13-2009 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Yeah, Phil had a sick love affair with her.
I just hope he's been able to overcome his love for pink shirts.


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