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sumitas 04-05-2009 01:02 PM

A very interesting thead . One must thank Dr. Bailey for her due diligence .

HaloWishingwell 04-05-2009 03:05 PM

The Pamplemousse Off The Trail
 
Alex Solis II confirmed on TVG that The Pamplemousse has a lesion in his tendon. Apparently can possibly be out for the year as well.

31lengths 04-05-2009 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell
Alex Solis II confirmed on TVG that The Pamplemousse has a lesion in his tendon. Apparently can possibly be out for the year as well.


That sux. I had a soft spot for him due to my fancy for grapefruit.

Hope he bounces back soon.

HaloWishingwell 04-05-2009 03:24 PM

Don't just take my word, here's the Bloodhorse.......http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...kentucky-derby

my miss storm cat 04-05-2009 03:58 PM

That's too bad... liked him a lot.

Guess it's all about Revenge now. :tro:

Feel better, good boy.

King Glorious 04-06-2009 06:59 PM

The Pamplemousse, trained by Julio Canani, was scratched from the Santa Anita Derby on Saturday, and on Sunday his connections said that if he is to race again, he would need approximately a year to recover.

"He has a lesion on his left foreleg," said Alex Solis II, a bloodstock agent and a co-owner of The Pamplemousse. "We'll give him a significant amount of time. He's not done yet by any means. If Julio Canani wants to give him six months, he can give him six months. If he wants to give him a year, he can give him a year. I have full confidence in Julio Canani. We've had a great run with this horse and he's given us a lot."
__________________________________________

This is a retirement notice.

IF he is to race again.
We've HAD a great run.

It's over.

SniperSB23 04-06-2009 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
This is a retirement notice.

IF he is to race again.
We've HAD a great run.

It's over.

Could this horse even stand for $5,000? I can't possibly imagine more than that. He's a G3 winner on the synthetics by Kafwain.

Pedigree Ann 04-07-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader
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What really pis*ed me off was the ride Bridgmohan gave to the son of Smarty Jones in the 10th at Gulfstream as I submitted to a whim to get my Santa Anita Derby loss $$ back.

Isn't Bridgmohan purported to be a good jockey??

Cripes....Bridgmohan had no sense of the pace, no apparent internal clock instinct, and erroneously thought he had a horse that didn't need any look at the rail for the entire mile.


What a screwball Bridgomohan was.

He's not riding any of my horses from this point.

;)

Which Bridgmohan? Shaun has been riding first call for Asmussen in the midwest, after having broken onto the scene in New York. Younger kinsman Jermyn has riding in Florida of late.

cabvmd 04-07-2009 01:30 PM

Thanks to the examining Veterinarians
 
As an examining veterinarian for 21 years, my hat and great thanks goes to Dr. Baily and the LA Turf Club Association. She most likely prevented yet another high profile raceday from having a horse get hurt. The job of examining Veterinarian is not easy. You only have short time to perform your exam and determine the soundness of a horse. Having the same veterinarian when ever posssible examine the horse each time it races is key. I remembered the horses I checked from week to week. When I first started in the job the assignments were the same every time a horse raced. Over the years the job climate has changed and there is a shortage of qualified examining veterinarians, forcing racing associations to rely on substitute veterinarians more often. Notes are kept in a master program for each days races so an examiner can go back to the previous starts to see if there has been any changes in the horse, but there is no better way to insure consistant evaluations of these horses than by having the same person examin the horse each time.

When I have recommended a horse be scratched, I have been sworn at, my skills as a veterinarian belittled, but I would rather have been "proved" wrong about any horse a thousand times than be right once. If I had questions about a horse and let it run any way and have something bad happen it would be just terrible. Most of the horses I have sratched pre-race did not race again, or had limited carreers after they had been scratched, meaning I had found some thing significant and the horse was not safe to race.

It is a TOUGH JOB. Thanks for all the Dr. Baily's out there. I hope racing will look to find enough qualifed veterinarians to perform this most important of jobs a the race track and compenstate these professional men and women at a level that reflects their knowledge and importance to the racing industry.

Sightseek 04-07-2009 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabvmd
As an examining veterinarian for 21 years, my hat and great thanks goes to Dr. Baily and the LA Turf Club Association. She most likely prevented yet another high profile raceday from having a horse get hurt. The job of examining Veterinarian is not easy. You only have short time to perform your exam and determine the soundness of a horse. Having the same veterinarian when ever posssible examine the horse each time it races is key. I remembered the horses I checked from week to week. When I first started in the job the assignments were the same every time a horse raced. Over the years the job climate has changed and there is a shortage of qualified examining veterinarians, forcing racing associations to rely on substitute veterinarians more often. Notes are kept in a master program for each days races so an examiner can go back to the previous starts to see if there has been any changes in the horse, but there is no better way to insure consistant evaluations of these horses than by having the same person examin the horse each time.

When I have recommended a horse be scratched, I have been sworn at, my skills as a veterinarian belittled, but I would rather have been "proved" wrong about any horse a thousand times than be right once. If I had questions about a horse and let it run any way and have something bad happen it would be just terrible. Most of the horses I have sratched pre-race did not race again, or had limited carreers after they had been scratched, meaning I had found some thing significant and the horse was not safe to race.

It is a TOUGH JOB. Thanks for all the Dr. Baily's out there. I hope racing will look to find enough qualifed veterinarians to perform this most important of jobs a the race track and compenstate these professional men and women at a level that reflects their knowledge and importance to the racing industry.

:tro:

Cannon Shell 04-07-2009 05:58 PM

While Dr. Bailey should be commended for a job well done, where the hell was the assistant trainer? You would think that they would have at the very least caught this issue before the examining vet. I mean it is only a Grade 1 Derby prep...

cabvmd 04-08-2009 10:49 AM

Examining Veterinarians
 
Dear Cannon Shell,

I totally agree with you. Many of these cases they just do not know or many times the people involved just do not what to know.

The type of race is important as well as you state, A Grade 1 Prep. These young horses are the most vunerable. They are competitors, willing to over extend themselves because of their class and determination. The horses that have never won a race even after many tries or older horses that know how to take care of themselves and will not try to the point that they would hurt themselvses.

We examining veterinarians get the line from the trainers "This is a stakes horse how can there be anything wrong with him/her. I would not run if I did not think the horse could win"

As I said, these are the most difficult of cases.

Cannon Shell 04-08-2009 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabvmd
Dear Cannon Shell,

I totally agree with you. Many of these cases they just do not know or many times the people involved just do not what to know.

The type of race is important as well as you state, A Grade 1 Prep. These young horses are the most vunerable. They are competitors, willing to over extend themselves because of their class and determination. The horses that have never won a race even after many tries or older horses that know how to take care of themselves and will not try to the point that they would hurt themselvses.

We examining veterinarians get the line from the trainers "This is a stakes horse how can there be anything wrong with him/her. I would not run if I did not think the horse could win"

As I said, these are the most difficult of cases.

I think that the examining vets have a very hard job as they only see the horse in question when they are in. I just thought that it was kind of embarrassing for the barn that the examining vet had to be the one to pick up a tendon on a high profile Derby horse. Doesn't anybody check legs in that barn?

Cannon Shell 04-08-2009 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus
When a horse has a tendon lesion, how much different does it look from a horse with an uninjured tendon? What stands out?

It is usually thicker or has a bump on the tendon if it was really serious. If you are paying attention, you will find it.


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