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slotdirt 04-09-2009 01:40 PM

As crappy as it gets in Maryland, I just don't see how they could ever move the Preakness somewhere else.

ddthetide 04-09-2009 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
As crappy as it gets in Maryland, I just don't see how they could ever move the Preakness somewhere else.

if i understand it, the state has the rights on the name "Preakness". the race can move but the name will change. after the colts fiasco, the state locked up the names associated with maryland.
who cares if maryland keeps the name Preakness, they better find a way to keep the tracks open to have a place to run a race.:zz:

Merlinsky 04-10-2009 12:00 AM

I figured the links don't mention Halsey Minor or folks would be talking about it so I didn't click on them, but I have read he wants to buy MEC assets if I remember correctly. Not Gulfstream because of Hialeah, but sounded like he had a good deal for them. Has that changed?

ETA: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ost-mec-assets
He would also keep racing at Golden Gate Fields.

Coach Pants 04-10-2009 12:04 AM

Move the race to Philly Park and call it The Freakness.

letswastemoney 04-10-2009 12:19 AM

The Preakness wouldn't feel like the Preakness if it were held anywhere but Pimlico.

I mean it's part of the test to race it at Pimlico......

You take the standard test at Churchill Downs....

then you see if you can handle the sharper turns at Pimlico....

then you see if you can handle the longer turns at Belmont

It's tradition!!!!

blackthroatedwind 04-10-2009 01:39 AM

The only problem with that is the turns aren't actually sharper at Pimlico than they are at Churchill.

ddthetide 04-10-2009 08:14 AM

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/loc...,7822162.story

Danzig 04-10-2009 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
The only problem with that is the turns aren't actually sharper at Pimlico than they are at Churchill.

good luck with that. some myths just won't die.

Danzig 04-10-2009 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide

i saw the other day that the state might use eminent domain in an effort to keep the track and the preakness. or at the very least, the preakness. of course you can't have a race without a venue to hold the race....should be interesting.

ironic tho that the state sat on its hands for years when everyone was screaming for help-and now they're suddenly in crisis mode.

phystech 04-10-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i saw the other day that the state might use eminent domain in an effort to keep the track and the preakness. or at the very least, the preakness. of course you can't have a race without a venue to hold the race....should be interesting.

ironic tho that the state sat on its hands for years when everyone was screaming for help-and now they're suddenly in crisis mode.


Our fine legislature and Gov are now trying to shove the eminant domain issue through to not only acquire the Preakness but all of Magna's Maryland assets.

This is the same legislature that has spent the last 6 years crushing MD racing, and now they're going to "save" it by eminant domain in less than a week.

http://www.abc2news.com/news/local/s...596kzCtTA.cspx

It just gets more crazy by the minute......

slotdirt 04-10-2009 09:02 AM

It's one thing to lose Laurel and Pimlico; it's entirely another to lose the Preakness itself. I don't know this for fact, but I would have to imagine the Preakness is the single biggest economic event in Maryland during the course of any given year. If I were the state of Maryland, I'd sure as shootin' be using any means possible to keep the race in house.

joeydb 04-10-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
It's one thing to lose Laurel and Pimlico; it's entirely another to lose the Preakness itself. I don't know this for fact, but I would have to imagine the Preakness is the single biggest economic event in Maryland during the course of any given year. If I were the state of Maryland, I'd sure as shootin' be using any means possible to keep the race in house.

You know, if this was the Belmont Stakes in trouble at Belmont Park, instead of the Preakness at Pimlico, the lawmakers would see the event and the track as being inseparable. Amazing what's in a name. It enables them to think they can relocate the race with negligible impact -- in other words they are only concerned about the marketing.

Companies have been doing that for years. A Cadillac is what we say it is. Oh, well the Cadillac Cimmaron is not the same as a Chevy Cavalier even though 90% of the parts are the same and the Cimmaron costs twice as much to buy, or repair (since we know we can get it)...

Danzig 04-10-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
It's one thing to lose Laurel and Pimlico; it's entirely another to lose the Preakness itself. I don't know this for fact, but I would have to imagine the Preakness is the single biggest economic event in Maryland during the course of any given year. If I were the state of Maryland, I'd sure as shootin' be using any means possible to keep the race in house.

i don't know about that-it might be the biggest one day event, but i doubt that economically it would hurt that state a whole lot. maryland has a lot of other stuff going on, and going for it. but i think they should do whatever they can to save it. it's certainly one of the most prestigious events in maryland.

slotdirt 04-10-2009 12:10 PM

Maryland has other stuff going for it? Really?

Danzig 04-10-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Maryland has other stuff going for it? Really?

lol

tourism. baseball, football...

i haven't been there in years, but surely it still has it's strong points? i just meant that there is life in md other than on preakness day.

slotdirt 04-10-2009 01:05 PM

That's true, but can you imagine what the economic impact of taking the Derby out of Louisville would be? I don't suspect it would be much different in Baltimore.

ddthetide 04-10-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
It's one thing to lose Laurel and Pimlico; it's entirely another to lose the Preakness itself. I don't know this for fact, but I would have to imagine the Preakness is the single biggest economic event in Maryland during the course of any given year. If I were the state of Maryland, I'd sure as shootin' be using any means possible to keep the race in house.

i recently read that Pimlico's operating budget for the year is based on preakness week.
it will greatly hurt the city and county of baltimore and i'm sure trickle over to other places in the state. think of the amounts of tourism moneys, spent that week.

Danzig 04-10-2009 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
That's true, but can you imagine what the economic impact of taking the Derby out of Louisville would be? I don't suspect it would be much different in Baltimore.

i'm sure there'd be an impact. a far greater impact would be the loss of laurel and pimlico. the far-reaching affects on horsemen and farms in the state would be disastrous.

ddthetide 04-15-2009 11:09 AM

preakness bill signed
 
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/h...,3055166.story

ddthetide 04-17-2009 01:01 PM

it just keeps getting better
 
:zz:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/h...,4184368.story


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