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Sightseek 04-02-2009 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
By the way, if I make an adjustment for the mile races' times based on the no runup, I match Drugs' 106.

How are your figures matching up with what they publish for Santa Anita?

SniperSB23 04-02-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
How are your figures matching up with what they publish for Santa Anita?

I really hope Phil isn't wasting time making figures for Santa Anita.

philcski 04-02-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
How are your figures matching up with what they publish for Santa Anita?


Sniper's right, I don't waste my time there. Actually my database is really behind because I've hardly played anything in the last 6 months thanks to the economy. Going to get it up and running for Keeneland and Churchill.

The Indomitable DrugS 04-02-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I really hope Phil isn't wasting time making figures for Santa Anita.

I am.

And I've bet about 9 races on syn there all meet.

Sad - I know.

Indian Charlie 04-02-2009 02:37 PM

How many two turned races did they have at GP on Florida Derby Day?

Sightseek 04-02-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Sniper's right, I don't waste my time there. Actually my database is really behind because I've hardly played anything in the last 6 months thanks to the economy. Going to get it up and running for Keeneland and Churchill.

So are you taking the same approach as others in the thread regarding using poly horses in the Derby?

The Indomitable DrugS 04-02-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
How many two turned races did they have at GP on Florida Derby Day?

Only one on dirt. The 8f races are one-turn. I think you know that though.

Indian Charlie 04-02-2009 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Only one on dirt. The 8f races are one-turn. I think you know that though.

Yeah, I just wanted to see you say that again.

Tough break about Proudinsky!

I'm bored.

Time to post the Apple Blossom and Oaklawn Handicrap.

philcski 04-02-2009 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
So are you taking the same approach as others in the thread regarding using poly horses in the Derby?

Yup... until they prove themselves otherwise. So far they're 0-fer hitting the board in the Derby, Preakness, and Belmont.

SniperSB23 04-02-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Yup... until they prove themselves otherwise. So far they're 0-fer hitting the board in the Derby, Preakness, and Belmont.

Only one that interests me is The Pamplemousse. He's not your typical synthetic monster, he's winning on the front end and it took him several races to get used to the surface and break his maiden. He's the only one that I could see cracking the top five.

Sightseek 04-02-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I'm bored.

You could always go down to Esoteric and show Coach Pants your tits.

Antitrust32 04-02-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
You could always go down to Esoteric and show Coach Pants your tits.

OOOOOOOOOO

Merlinsky 04-02-2009 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Well, I am in the running for World's Prettiest Handicapper, thank you very much!

:p

That implies anyone else dares to compete against you. :tro:

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-02-2009 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Whatever number you give it ... it is a pure guessing game.

And the reason why is because GP only carded one two-turn dirt route - and to make matters much worse you had very heavy wind on the day.

Careful with that statement....may rise some eyebrows ;)

Merlinsky 04-02-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
or perhaps the winner in england. we all have to remember, when perusing the graded list and speculating who's in/out, that only the top 19 will go.

Mafaaz is running in the Blue Grass after which he might've confirmed he belongs or is a hopeless longshot in contention for finishing dead last. Many have pointed out he has connections who aren't likely to ruin him if he's got more in common with the ponies in the post parade than the other Derby horses. The crock of course is that, if he rocks it, his "proof" will take place on a synthetic surface but it's not like others won't be in a similar position of having not run on dirt in the U.S.

blackthroatedwind 04-02-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny
Not so much that racing secretaries care about figure makers but race tracks know that the bettors thrive on INFORMATION.
This is why Belmont always carded a 12f starter on Belmont day. This is why most tracks do card additional races at the distance/configuration of the day's big races. It's not Beyer's convenience but for the tracks customer's convenience. Beside that, racing secretaries are usually guys that have some foundation in the game. It's not like racing secretaries are guys that were hired from the ranks of fire AIG execs. They know they game.


TV was the reason there used to be another 1 1/2 mile race on the Belmont card. It gave whoever was doing the coverage the opportunity to test out their equipment for covering the race.


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