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Cannon Shell 03-29-2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I don't believe in "bounce."

NT

I guess your clothes all have that static cling

justindew 03-29-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I guess your clothes all have that static cling

Please apologize for this.

NTamm1215 03-29-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I guess your clothes all have that static cling

No bounce, but Downy is fair game, no?

NT

Cannon Shell 03-29-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew
Please apologize for this.

Couldn't resist

Cannon Shell 03-29-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
No bounce, but Downy is fair game, no?

NT

Yes it is

philcski 03-29-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
No bounce, but Downy is fair game, no?

NT

http://www.thedowneyprofile.com/

Kasept 03-30-2009 05:21 AM

GP: FL Derby - QR 103; Dunkirk 100
GP: Swale - Big Drama 109; TOFP 108
GP: Appleton - Kiss the Kid 101
GP: Bonnie Miss - Justwhistledixie 87

GP ALW/MSW'S:
Just Ben 96
Santana Six 96
Senor Leche 60
Glitterman's Cartel 94; Nicanor 93
Vitruvius 95
Jacoby's Run 76

Friday: Dr. Pleasure 103


AQU: Next Move - Weathred 90

SA: Tokyo City - Stream Cat 98
SA: San Miguel - Triumphant Flight 94

philcski 03-30-2009 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
GP: FL Derby - QR 103; Dunkirk 100
GP: Swale - Big Drama 109; TOFP 108
GP: Appleton - Kiss the Kid 101
GP: Bonnie Miss - Justwhistledixie 87

GP ALW/MSW'S:
Just Ben 96
Santana Six 96
Senor Leche 60
Glitterman's Cartel 94; Nicanor 93
Vitruvius 95
Jacoby's Run 76

Friday: Dr. Pleasure 103


AQU: Next Move - Weathred 90

SA: Tokyo City - Stream Cat 98
SA: San Miguel - Triumphant Flight 94

So the mile races at GP have a +8 point adjustment vs. the standard par chart for the no-runup timing. Guess that makes sense. So 103 would be only 3 lower than what I get then after refiguring for the mile races.

Linny 03-30-2009 01:07 PM

Why didn't GP card any other 9f dirt races on Fla Derby day? It has to be pretty hard to assign a fig when the G1 is the only race at the distance on the card. Isn't that why they always used to card that 1 1/2 mile starter on the Belmont card?

jballscalls 03-30-2009 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny
Why didn't GP card any other 9f dirt races on Fla Derby day? It has to be pretty hard to assign a fig when the G1 is the only race at the distance on the card. Isn't that why they always used to card that 1 1/2 mile starter on the Belmont card?

i can't imagine any racing secretary carding a race to help make it easier to figure out speed figures

The Indomitable DrugS 03-30-2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jballscalls
i can't imagine any racing secretary carding a race to help make it easier to figure out speed figures

It's not just speed figures ... you can't properlly analyze several factors in a race as well when it's the only one on the whole card carded around two turns on dirt.

It's a disgrace that it keeps happening on big race days.

Kasept 03-31-2009 05:24 AM

*Swale (GP): This Ones For Phil (R. Dutrow Jr./G. Gomez) - 108 (*Big Drama finished first with a 109 Beyer, but was disaqualified, and placed second)

*Rampart (GP): One Caroline (G. Arnold II/E. Prado) - 104
*Santa Paula (SA): Carlsbad (J. Mullins/T. Baze) - 103
*Florida Derby (GP): Quality Road (J. Jerkens/J. Velazquez) - 103
*Appleton (GP): Kiss the Kid (A. Tarrant/E. Trujillo) - 101
*Harrison E. Johnson Memorial (Lrl): Bullsbay (H. Motion/J. Rose) - 100
*Carousel (OP): Palanka City (T. Gestes/C. Emigh) - 100

*Sensational Star (SA): Liberian Freighter (N. Drysdale/R. Bejarano) - 99
*Tokyo City Cup (SA): Stream Cat (P. Biancone/J. Talamo) - 98
*San Miguel (SA): Triumphant Flight (J. Kruljac/V. Espinoza) - 94
*Strate Sunshine (Haw): Kathleens Reel (F. Kirby/I. Karlsson) - 91
*B-Connected (DeD): True Course (S. Margolis/I. Diego) - 91
*Next Move (Aqu): Weathered (K. Grusmark/M. Luzzi) - 90

*Portland Meadows Mile (PM): Crafty Power (J. Hollendorfer/J. Crispin) - 89
*Sunland Park Oaks (Sun): Gabby's Golden Gal (B. Baffert/V. Espinoza) - 88
*Bonnie Miss (GP): Justwhistledixie (K. McLaughlin/J. Leparoux) - 87
*Sunland Derby (Sun): Kelly Leak (M. Machowsky/M. Smith) - 87
*Harry W. Henson (Sun): Prairie Charm (G. Cross/K. Tohill) - 86
*Red Camelia (FG): Tensas Yucatan (M. Nicks/H. Theriot II) - 86
*Lookout (DeD): Ruling Class (T. Romero/K. Leblanc) - 85
*Missy's Mirage (Aqu): By the Light (R. Dutrow Jr./R. Migliore) - 84
*John E. Jackson Jr. Memorial (FG): Mr. Porter (T. Amoss/J. Graham) - 84
*Happy Ticket (FG): Alphadoodle (F. Leggio/R. Albarado) - 82
*Rainbow Miss (OP): Affirmed Truth (T. Ice/J. Court) - 80

Linny 03-31-2009 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
It's not just speed figures ... you can't properlly analyze several factors in a race as well when it's the only one on the whole card carded around two turns on dirt.

It's a disgrace that it keeps happening on big race days.

Agreed. I'm really not a figure player but I like to have some perspective and when the G1 on the day is the only one at the configuration.

Bobby Fischer 04-02-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
I'll let our own 'speed boys' delve deepest, but those figures make perfect sense and show the track was a little faster than par. Dunkirk's # is rignt in line with his last, and Quality Road regressed logically on the initial two turn try off the huge one turn effort. What's the issue?

Some of you guys love to "delve deeply".


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