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swedejxn 02-28-2009 12:48 PM

For what it's worth... I think Beethoven is the best choice... my fear is that notonthesamepage is the one horse that needs the lead, wants the lead, and may be loose... TAQ may be a player... and candyman doesn't need the earnings so this may be a workout ... there is money to be made if you can figure out the "Agendas" of the trainer/owner... and to throw another wrench into the pool.... b-water-ed cannot be as bad as last... if he runs back to fall form... look out... cheers... jack and coke is tasting quite good..
Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2
Yes, they can be quite scary, but they are very unlikely to cost you the P-4 at Gulfstream today. My thought is that Beethoven might do that.
It is obviously a tough race, and I realize that you have to exclude somebody to make it a playable wager, but I was very impressed with his effort in the Holy Bull. I also like that he is cutting back and figures to be just off the pace, while most of the other contenders are stretching out.


declansharbor 02-28-2009 12:50 PM

Gulfstream Late 4

$1

1,6
7,8,9
2,7,9,11
2,9

.50

3,6
2,6,8,11
7,8,10,11
2,7

$20 to win on Beethoven

$100 total...Best of luck to those playing today!!!

swedejxn 02-28-2009 12:54 PM

miraj... we are in good shape.... we have another believer... we need to get a picture of LUDWIG in the winners circle and paint a clown's face on it... lol
Quote:

Originally Posted by declansharbor
Gulfstream Late 4

$1

1,6
7,8,9
2,7,9,11
2,9

.50

3,6
2,6,8,11
7,8,10,11
2,7

$20 to win on Beethoven

$100 total...Best of luck to those playing today!!!


swedejxn 02-28-2009 12:58 PM

will try a late gp 4 for fitty cent

1-5-6
7-8-9-11
2-7-10
2-3-7

$54

gotta hit sumptin today....

CSC 02-28-2009 01:08 PM

Very perplexing seeing AP Arrow in an Op Claimer on turf for the 1st time, being that he is half to Geri, you would have to think if he could handle the turf why did they wait till he is at the ripe age of 7 to try him. Todd's no dummy that I know. Only 4/1?

DJARUM 02-28-2009 01:12 PM

Despite John Ward

ATRB show ideas

Jerry Bossert
John Ward

I'll let you know when i can fill 3 hours!

ateamstupid 02-28-2009 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedejxn
For what it's worth... I think Beethoven is the best choice... my fear is that notonthesamepage is the one horse that needs the lead, wants the lead, and may be loose... TAQ may be a player... and candyman doesn't need the earnings so this may be a workout ... there is money to be made if you can figure out the "Agendas" of the trainer/owner... and to throw another wrench into the pool.... b-water-ed cannot be as bad as last... if he runs back to fall form... look out... cheers... jack and coke is tasting quite good..

That's not necessarily true. He's got roughly $175,000 in graded earnings, which may or may not be enough. Plus, if Wilkes had him cranked up enough to win the Hutcheson, why would he back off of him now? That's not how you bring along a three-year-old..

The "agendas" of all of the trainers/owners are to see if their horses can go at least a mile and whether or not to continue on the Trail.. Not sure what other agenda there would be.

Coach Pants 02-28-2009 01:45 PM

Aqueduct Pick 4
3,7
2,7,10
2,7
4
$12

miraja2 02-28-2009 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedejxn
For what it's worth... I think Beethoven is the best choice... my fear is that notonthesamepage is the one horse that needs the lead, wants the lead, and may be loose... TAQ may be a player... and candyman doesn't need the earnings so this may be a workout ... there is money to be made if you can figure out the "Agendas" of the trainer/owner... and to throw another wrench into the pool.... b-water-ed cannot be as bad as last... if he runs back to fall form... look out... cheers... jack and coke is tasting quite good..

The 8th and the 9th are both very tough races which makes hitting any horizontal wager including those two races a very tough proposition. I think I am just going to play Beethoven W/P and in exacta boxes w/ #s 2, 9, & 12.
I really like his chances here, although Steve could very well be right about him having too much to do turning for home.

DJARUM 02-28-2009 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Aqueduct Pick 4
3,7
2,7,10
2,7
4
$12

It looks impossible to me, probably a good approach. On the conservative.

DJARUM 02-28-2009 01:54 PM

3-6-9
2-3-7-8
2-4-7
3-4-6

Coach Pants 02-28-2009 02:01 PM

Shartwell Stables. Where we overspend and fail daily.

Coach Pants 02-28-2009 02:25 PM

Could be a "life changing" pick 4 at Aqueduct.

lemoncrush 02-28-2009 02:26 PM

$1 Magna 5 play
 
Leg a) 2,8,9
Leg b) 1,4,5
Leg c) 3,7,9
Leg d) 6
leg e) 1,2,8

$81

Good luck everyone.

Ronnie 02-28-2009 03:10 PM

Good luck Andy!
 
I hope that you nail that pick 4 at the Big A!

Ronnie 02-28-2009 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie
I hope that you nail that pick 4 at the Big A!


GREAT JOB ANDY!!!! :$: :$: :$: :$:

Mike 02-28-2009 03:26 PM

Tension rising for this 8th at Gulfstream. The three horses touted by thorograph (Rogue Victory, Twilight Meteoer and Budd's Humor)are all underlaid(about half the ml odds)
I stay with Vanquisher, keeping his 5-1+

blackthroatedwind 02-28-2009 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie
GREAT JOB ANDY!!!! :$: :$: :$: :$:


Thanks Ronnie. That was nice.

the_fat_man 02-28-2009 03:45 PM

Buffalo Man is a nice overlay here.

pointman 02-28-2009 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Thanks Ronnie. That was nice.

Nice job, Andy. I stayed away today because of the way the track has been playing. From the little I caught, it looked to play pretty fair. What was your take?

Steve, since I stayed away from the Big A, I split your big Magna play with pmac for some action. Good Luck!


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