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timmgirvan 02-26-2009 02:18 PM

Hopefully he won't follow Barney Franks' 25% reduction in miltitary spending!
I distinctly heard Obama that the troops would get a raise in pay and benefits. He better not foul this up....

dellinger63 02-26-2009 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Hopefully he won't follow Barney Franls' 25% reduction in miltitary spending!
I distinctly heard Obama that the troops would get a raise in pay and benefits. He better not foul this up....

He had that one covered.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/b...25/185611.html

timmgirvan 02-26-2009 03:23 PM

If he doesnt come through with this promise, he'll be a one term President.

SniperSB23 02-26-2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
If he doesnt come through with this promise, he'll be a one term President.

All that really matters is how the economy is doing in 2012. If the economy is doing well, regardless of whether or not it was cause of Obama, he will win easily. If the economy is still doing bad, regardless of whether or not it was cause of Obama, he will lose. That's the main reason I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on the stimulus plan. He's the one that will benefit the most if it works and stands to lose the most if it tanks.

Coach Pants 02-26-2009 03:30 PM

We'll be a 3rd world country in 4 years. Probably have over 15 trillion in bailouts by then.

gales0678 02-26-2009 03:38 PM

when will default on the interest payments on our debt coach , obam's 1st or 2nd term?

dellinger63 02-26-2009 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
when will default on the interest payments on our debt coach , obam's 1st or 2nd term?

1rst but on a possitive note we'll finally discover who actually owns the Federal Reserve and can behead them. LOL

timmgirvan 02-26-2009 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
1rst but on a possitive note we'll finally discover who actually owns the Federal Reserve and can behead them. LOL


My vote goes for the Illuminati:eek:

dellinger63 02-26-2009 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
My vote goes for the Illuminati:eek:

Mine goes to private member banks who just got the lion's share of this bailout. Now who are the largest share holders of these banks and why are we bailing them out?

dellinger63 02-26-2009 07:03 PM

Hint Sheik Mo one

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/11/...up_shareholder

timmgirvan 02-26-2009 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63


...but I got Hope...and 31 cents in my pocket!

Danzig 02-26-2009 07:10 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29392964/

timmgirvan 02-26-2009 07:18 PM

So he's going to improve healthcare by reaming the health providers???
Is he not aware of hospitals closing totally, or at least shutting the trauma
centers down in multiple states?

Please explain to me how this can possibly be good for any patient.:(

Danzig 02-26-2009 07:25 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29392525/


some snippets:

...legislation was "going to grow the government 8.3 percent ... but the family budget which has to pay for the federal budget only grew at 1.3 percent last year.


Given the extraordinary costs of the financial industry bailout and the stimulus, the White House projects this year's budget shortfall will be $1.5 trillion, triple the previous record of $455 billion in 2008


Democrats included in the spending measure a prohibition on a cost-of-living increase for members of Congress for the year. (what a relief!!:rolleyes: )


After persuading lawmakers to keep earmarks off the stimulus bill, Obama made no such attempt on the first non-emergency spending measure of his presidency. The result was that lawmakers claimed billions in federal funds for pet projects — a total of 8,570 earmarks at a cost of $7.7 billion, according to Taxpayers for Common Sense.

GBBob 02-26-2009 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29392525/


some snippets:

...legislation was "going to grow the government 8.3 percent ... but the family budget which has to pay for the federal budget only grew at 1.3 percent last year.


Given the extraordinary costs of the financial industry bailout and the stimulus, the White House projects this year's budget shortfall will be $1.5 trillion, triple the previous record of $455 billion in 2008


Democrats included in the spending measure a prohibition on a cost-of-living increase for members of Congress for the year. (what a relief!!:rolleyes: )


After persuading lawmakers to keep earmarks off the stimulus bill, Obama made no such attempt on the first non-emergency spending measure of his presidency. The result was that lawmakers claimed billions in federal funds for pet projects — a total of 8,570 earmarks at a cost of $7.7 billion, according to Taxpayers for Common Sense.

Any funds earmarked for a state...construction, health care, etc...Senators take credit for. Then it becomes pork..Even when it benefits the State..

Danzig 02-26-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Any funds earmarked for a state...construction, health care, etc...Senators take credit for. Then it becomes pork..Even when it benefits the State..

well, they had tattoo removal mentioned in there. i'd imagine there's a lot more stuff like that in there-it costs money, and every bit adds up. i just don't think anything unnecessary should be in there-and stuff like that qualifies. it wasn't that long ago that we had a surplus-now we're facing record deficits, with more spending to come. bigger budgets across the board, when i thought they were going to rein in spending-defense budget will come in just as high as in the last eight years.

dellinger63 02-27-2009 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Any funds earmarked for a state...construction, health care, etc...Senators take credit for. Then it becomes pork..Even when it benefits the State..

exactly like the canoes in Hawaii, the walking bridge in Poukeepsie and the tattoo removal machine in Los Angeles. Not to mention Puerto Rican rum, condoms and more condoms.

Smooth Operator 02-27-2009 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
All that really matters is how the economy is doing in 2012. If the economy is doing well, regardless of whether or not it was cause of Obama, he will win easily. If the economy is still doing bad, regardless of whether or not it was cause of Obama, he will lose. That's the main reason I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on the stimulus plan. He's the one that will benefit the most if it works and stands to lose the most if it tanks.

We have a better chance of seeing Cannon Shell leading cheers after a Southern Cal touchdown this season than we have of seeing a con prevail in 2012.



Can't imagine the people would send another con to the White House so soon after the Bush-Cheney-Cox economic horror show...

GBBob 02-27-2009 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
We have a better chance of seeing Cannon Shell leading cheers after a Southern Cal touchdown this season than we have of seeing a con prevail in 2012.



Can't imagine the people would send another con to the White House so soon after the Bush-Cheney-Cox economic horror show...

They have to find a candidate first...maybe they can dig up Reagan and do a Weekend at Bernies with him? Probably get at least 25% of the vote..

dellinger63 02-27-2009 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
We have a better chance of seeing Cannon Shell leading cheers after a Southern Cal touchdown this season than we have of seeing a con prevail in 2012.



Can't imagine the people would send another con to the White House so soon after the Bush-Cheney-Cox economic horror show...

As the Obama supporters would say 'we've just gotten through one month'.The opening credits have just run. The beginning of this movie sets up all the blood, starving and violence at the end. Like comparing Rocky Horror Show to The Exorcist. IMO. and in the words of Obama's Atty General 'we are all cowards'...


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