and tony rezko

again he didn't fool anyone - he won the primary for 1 simple reason , the dems didn't want to put out a candidate for presdient that had voted to give bush authorization to go to iraq

anyone the dems put up this year was going to win anyway , you know that , the whole country knows that , the whole world knows that, why d oyou thin obama was 1/10 and mccain was about 20/1 in vegas in oct?

Well I'll agree that he didn't fool anyone because I still stand by the opinion that he didn't need to fool anyone because he's not legitimately a raving moron like some of his opponents. I believe he is what he says he is. And time will prove that.

I'm a little surprised to see anybody here attempting to defend Jindal's performance last night. It was simply dreadful: http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...litico/19283_1
I think that if I was a conservative, I would be a little bit pissed that they trotted out a guy like that to articulate the things that I believed in rather than somebody that could construct an intelligent argument.
It would be like if the conservatives on this board got together and decided to select a spokesperson, and then they passed over Chuck & ArlJim and decided just to let GRITS speak for them.

Pubs continue to search for some leadership after Captain Bush and Officers Cheney and Cox steered the Titanic into the iceberg.


Just hilarious to watch




Think my I.Q. fell 50 points as I listened to this guy and his Mister-Rogers-like delivery on the car radio last night...

Jindal is OK with me.

I caught one of his politcal rallys on C-Span a year and a half ago or so ... it was really late and I couldn't find the remote ...

He played Lousianna Saturday Night at the end of it. Very underrated country song I'd say.

It probably helped him.

The more they heard about the Rev. Wright guy .. the less they got to think of him as a muslim.

and Blacks no longer considered him an 'Uncle Tom' or worse. Guess a Racist Reverend beats a Joe Six Pack any day. Not sure if Rev. Wright is a 'baby daddy' like the great Rev Jackson though.

What was the one thing of substance that Obama did as a senator I forgot?

Got elected President.

i'm not sure what obama's term as senator has to do with how bobby jindal did in the response last night. the cynic in me says the reps had jindal do the response so they could show the dems aren't the only ones with people of color in their party.

Is someone having fun with Wikipedia or did he really choose to go by Bobby because he was inspired by Bobby Brady?

WIN!!!11!1!!

Got a great deal on a lot next to his mansion so no one would build. A real estate Messiah. Something to do with a guy in jail now.

It has nothing to do with anything just like his qualifications to be president, I was just going along with the part of the thread saying that people were fooled but that he is not a moron , yet . Thats all, please continue.

I think Republicans have only two shots to take down Obama in 2012.
If the ecomomy turns into a genuine depression type catastrophe (I'm frankly seeing this as more and more likely), or if they find someone amongst them with real gravitas, real charisma. Its not that hard to come up with a winning message, frankly there was not that much wrong with what Jindal said, its just that he does not inspire and doesn't appear presidential. If Republicans nominate someone like him, which would not be surprising at all, they're doomed again in my view. Maybe he would be a step up from Bush because he is genuinely smart, but its going to take more than that.

since Reagan, Republicans only nominate people that don't communicate that well in speeches or interviews. Bush 41, Dole, Bush43, McCain, none of them what you would call natural speakers, not glib or charismatic.
Bush41 won because he took the handoff from Reagan and I think had only Dukakis to beat, Bush43 won because the Dem's also nominated a similar stiff in Kerry.
now Dem's have a real star with a cult following. forget that there is no substance and that he lies continuously and has accelerated us on the path to economic ruin, those things may or may not matter by the time the next election rolls around. They'll get trounced again if they don't go with someone sharp and dynamic. They need to call up a rookie phenom from the farm team because I don't see anyone that fits the bill out there now.

i don't think anyone was fooled by anyone. obama is the recipient of being the best of a bad lot, just like the last few that were elected-and the war and economy finished off whatever chance the reps had-that and mccain being a rotten choice, as well as his vp choice being worse. either way, he's got a godawful hell of a mess on his hands. and the vultures are circling...

For the most part, I agree with your thoughts here, but you need to address the fact that Obama was bringing hope and change....and it was business as usual for the Dems ever since. Dems can't brush it off by saying it was campaign rhetoric.

yeah, this whole 30 days has exposed the entire scam. this economy fallout has been coming for years, i think we really only delayed the inevitable a year or so. i'm not sure what everyone was expecting, but things are really a mess right now. anyone complaining about what's been done, or not done, so far is being completely unrealistic imo. back when most of the campaigning was going on, things were not as bad as they are now. things have really spiralled down badly. does anyone giving obama grief for how things have been in his first month (month!) really think anyone could have done things better? it's been a month. it's taken far longer than that to get to this point, how would it take so short a time to fix it??

i don't think anyone voted for obama for change as in we're not going to act like govt has for over two hundred years. they changed parties.

So...you're are onboard with the new 410Bil package(with 8957 earmarks)? The Dems are convinced Americans are stupid and need to be governed. Just another step on the slippery slope...