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GBBob 01-19-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I have 4 attack dogs that take care of intruders

I laughed

Antitrust32 01-19-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I have 4 attack dogs that take care of intruders


Thebby, Cherie, and the two pups??

Rileyoriley 01-19-2009 10:27 AM

[quote=GBBob]Well....I'll open myself up to the daggers. Before the economy tanked and since Irag was always a no brainer...Here was my wish list over the next 4-8 years...in no particular order..

* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry (AGREE ON SEMI, DISAGREE ON CONCEALED)
* Ban the Death Penalty(STRONGLY DISAGREE)
* Full rights for Gays to marry(AGREE)
* Simplify the tax code(AGREE)
* No offshore drilling(STRONGLY DISAGREE)
* Pro Choice in first and second Trimesters(FIRST-YES, SECOND-NO)
* Stem Cell research at further levels(AGREE)
* Less farm subsidies unless warrented(AGREE)
* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards(AGREE)
* Revisit NAFTA(AGREE)
* NASA...what does it mean?(NO OPINION)
* Environment, Environment, Environment(DISAGREE)

This should be fun..[/QUOTE





:) I'd like to add-LESS GOVERNMENT IN MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

timmgirvan 01-19-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I have 4 attack dogs that take care of intruders

Cheaper to have a gun than feed those 4 dogs!.....just saying:D

timmgirvan 01-19-2009 10:34 AM

[quote=Rileyoriley]
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Originally Posted by GBBob
Well....I'll open myself up to the daggers. Before the economy tanked and since Irag was always a no brainer...Here was my wish list over the next 4-8 years...in no particular order..

* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry (AGREE ON SEMI, DISAGREE ON CONCEALED)
* Ban the Death Penalty(STRONGLY DISAGREE)
* Full rights for Gays to marry(AGREE)
* Simplify the tax code(AGREE)
* No offshore drilling(STRONGLY DISAGREE)
* Pro Choice in first and second Trimesters(FIRST-YES, SECOND-NO)
* Stem Cell research at further levels(AGREE)
* Less farm subsidies unless warrented(AGREE)
* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards(AGREE)
* Revisit NAFTA(AGREE)
* NASA...what does it mean?(NO OPINION)
* Environment, Environment, Environment(DISAGREE)

This should be fun..[/QUOTE





:) I'd like to add-LESS GOVERNMENT IN MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


you have the wrong party in WH and congress,baby!

Rileyoriley 01-19-2009 10:35 AM

[quote=timmgirvan]
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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley


you have the wrong party in WH and congress,baby!


Sadly I am aware of that fact. But I have HOPE he will CHANGE!!!!:D

GBBob 01-19-2009 10:36 AM

I figured I would have little or no support on the Death Penalty, but here are my reasons..obviously IMO;)

1) Since the gun lovers always invoke their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, I think it's reasonable to look at the 8th as well. If killing another person isn't considered "cruel and unusual punishment", I'm not sure what would qualify. And the "eye for an eye" logic doesn't cut it in my mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruel_a...ual_punishment

2) The fact that even one innocent person could be put to death, and we all know that many have, is reason enough to ban it.

3) A life sentence in solitary is a much more appropriate penalty and I can honestly say that god forbid I was in a position to have a say in sentencing, that is what I would request.

4) Without the need for appeals, millions and millions would be saved annually and would cover the extra facilities needed to house life without parole prisoners.

Antitrust32 01-19-2009 10:37 AM

[quote=timmgirvan]
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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley


you have the wrong party in WH and congress,baby!


that used to be the case... Bush changed the rules though.. HOPEFULLY Bush is the exception, not the rule, or else the Republican party is done for.

joeydb 01-19-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I figured I would have little or no support on the Death Penalty, but here are my reasons..obviously IMO;)

1) Since the gun lovers always invoke their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, I think it's reasonable to look at the 8th as well. If killing another person isn't considered "cruel and unusual punishment", I'm not sure what would qualify. And the "eye for an eye" logic doesn't cut it in my mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruel_a...ual_punishment

2) The fact that even one innocent person could be put to death, and we all know that many have, is reason enough to ban it.

3) A life sentence in solitary is a much more appropriate penalty and I can honestly say that god forbid I was in a position to have a say in sentencing, that is what I would request.

4) Without the need for appeals, millions and millions would be saved annually and would cover the extra facilities needed to house life without parole prisoners.


OK, so just to clarify -- the death penalty for convicted felons is wrong, but abortion of the unborn, all of whom are innocent by definition, is OK??

GBBob 01-19-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb
OK, so just to clarify -- the death penalty for convicted felons is wrong, but abortion of the unborn, all of whom are innocent by definition, is OK??

I usually stay away from abortion posts because they are very personal choices and I probably should have left it off my original list for that reason. I think anyone opposed to abortion understands (but disagrees) the Pro-Choice opinion/logic so I'll leave it at that.

GPK 01-19-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I have 4 attack dogs that take care of intruders

Your 4 attack dogs stacked on top of one another dont come up to my knees

joeydb 01-19-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I usually stay away from abortion posts because they are very personal choices and I probably should have left it off my original list for that reason. I think anyone opposed to abortion understands (but disagrees) the Pro-Choice opinion/logic so I'll leave it at that.

OK, fair enough -- it is the law of the land, currently, no matter how ill-conceived. I would point out that it's even a more personal matter for the individual being aborted.

By the way -- I would like to see a simplification of the tax code and a scrapping of NAFTA, which just goes to prove that their can be some even between those at opposite ends of the political spectrum.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-19-2009 11:07 AM

:eek:
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Surprisingly I have no issue with most of your wishes. Though I am for off shore drilling and the death penalty and believe many environmental issues are completely overblown. NAFTA could use some adjustments also. Holy **** I may be turning lefty...

thats what i said..:eek:

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-19-2009 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I figured I would have little or no support on the Death Penalty, but here are my reasons..obviously IMO;)

1) Since the gun lovers always invoke their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, I think it's reasonable to look at the 8th as well. If killing another person isn't considered "cruel and unusual punishment", I'm not sure what would qualify. And the "eye for an eye" logic doesn't cut it in my mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruel_a...ual_punishment

2) The fact that even one innocent person could be put to death, and we all know that many have, is reason enough to ban it.

3) A life sentence in solitary is a much more appropriate penalty and I can honestly say that god forbid I was in a position to have a say in sentencing, that is what I would request.

4) Without the need for appeals, millions and millions would be saved annually and would cover the extra facilities needed to house life without parole prisoners.

use 1 to take care of 4..

GBBob 01-19-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb
OK, fair enough -- it is the law of the land, currently, no matter how ill-conceived. I would point out that it's even a more personal matter for the individual being aborted.

By the way -- I would like to see a simplification of the tax code and a scrapping of NAFTA, which just goes to prove that their can be some even between those at opposite ends of the political spectrum.



That was one of the reasons I submitted myself to this excercise...Certainly I'm about as left as there is and you, and others I know here are the opposite politically. But, there are commonalities (?) amongst even the most diverse opinions and I wanted to draw those out a bit without just the usual Dumbocrat and Bush Sucks rhetoric.

brianwspencer 01-19-2009 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Well....I'll open myself up to the daggers. Before the economy tanked and since Irag was always a no brainer...Here was my wish list over the next 4-8 years...in no particular order..

* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry
* Ban the Death Penalty
* Full rights for Gays to marry
* Simplify the tax code
* No offshore drilling
* Stem Cell research at further levels
* Less farm subsidies unless warrented
* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards
* Revisit NAFTA
* NASA...what does it mean?
* Environment, Environment, Environment

This should be fun..

Well, this is totally my wish list too, though you took the pro-choice part out probably to try to keep the other topics on point instead of veering off into an all-out abortion war here. Banning the death penalty would be pretty sweet.

Toss that back in, with a disclaimer that extends it into third trimester in certain, reasonable cases (ie those that are not just because someone put it off for 6 months -- which is not a rampant problem as is...) and you've pretty much made my list....I'm assuming your marriage rights assumes DADT was repealed as well, that's something I'm hoping to see.

FGFan 01-19-2009 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by GBBob
Well....I'll open myself up to the daggers. Before the economy tanked and since Irag was always a no brainer...Here was my wish list over the next 4-8 years...in no particular order..
With Dellinger the Republicans answers,then mine in blue
* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry Disagree Completely DISAGREE, especially concealed
* Ban the Death Penalty Disagree DISAGREE
* Full rights for Gays to marry Agree AGREE
* Simplify the tax code Strongly Agree AGREE
* No offshore drilling Agree if invasion of Venezuela included DISAGREE
* Pro Choice in first and second Trimesters Agree despite my priests AGREE ABSOLULELY..key word choice
* Stem Cell research at further levels Strongly Agree STRONGLY AGREE
* Less farm subsidies unless warrented Strongly Agree See Below ABSOLUTELY AGREE
* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards School Vouchers AGREE
* Revisit NAFTA If we concentrate more on our neighbor to the north AGREE
* NASA...what does it mean? They gave us Teflon I LAUGHED
* Environment, Environment, Environment Polution yes cows farting no I LAUGHED AGAIN

This should be fun..

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Even I admit that my list is very left and not mainstream...especially the first two, but hey...debate is healthy.

The farm subsidies is a case of a very well intentioned bill that became abused quickly ( as if that isn't the case with many). And my Dad worked for NASA so in theory I still think they are viable, but need to be much more accountable for the end result of the billions spent.

Very much extreme left. Could dell really be a closet Dem....:p, or maybe there are alot more of us in the middle...;)

Cannon Shell 01-19-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Cheaper to have a gun than feed those 4 dogs!.....just saying:D

Cheaper than clothing them for sure

Cannon Shell 01-19-2009 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Your 4 attack dogs stacked on top of one another dont come up to my knees

there are lower parts of the anatomy they will center their attack on.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-19-2009 02:45 PM

the big deal on hbo was funny.. obamas old lady suffering through the u2 and garth brooks..then bam stevie wonder on..shake your booty. tom hanks was good ..


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