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golfer 12-21-2008 06:09 PM

Without having anything wagered on the race, I thought the 5 should have come down. It would have been a tough DQ, as he was clearly the best horse, but he unquestionably came right out in front of the 7, which just as clearly cost that horse a placing. I was very surprised they left him up.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-21-2008 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
No one has any comment on the non DQ in the 6th?

Betting Belle Allure here. And doubles with the 2,5,10 in the 9th.

Nakatani and Espinoza aren't gunna get anything much from the deciders. They don't usually want to take the best horse down out here(although that Friday Night they did, but that was that cheating Sadler...LOL.)

CSC 12-21-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
No one has any comment on the non DQ in the 6th?

Betting Belle Allure here. And doubles with the 2,5,10 in the 9th.

I made a comment right after the race, but I think it went right over everyone's head. Ridiculous non call and even more a ridiculous ride out by Nakatani. The guy should stay retired if that is the way he rides out his mounts.

docicu3 12-21-2008 06:21 PM

So who wins the last at Hollywood?

Scav 12-21-2008 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
I made a comment right after the race, but I think it went right over everyone's head. Ridiculous non call and even more a ridiculous ride out by Nakatani. The guy should stay retired if that is the way he rides out his mounts.

Note: I like Nakatini as a jockey

How is he suppose to ride that mount out when the horse is weaving in front of him.

I didn't see the head on, but how the horse didn't get taken down off the pan view alone was horrible.

3kings 12-21-2008 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
I made a comment right after the race, but I think it went right over everyone's head. Ridiculous non call and even more a ridiculous ride out by Nakatani. The guy should stay retired if that is the way he rides out his mounts.

I didn't go over my head...I just don't agree. Is Nakatani supposed to not check, and clip heels and cause a spill. I agree the 5 should have come down, but don't think Nakatani had many options that didn't endanger all the horses and jockeys involved.

CSC 12-21-2008 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Nakatani definitely did his mount no favors with his crap.

I respect riders, anyone who decides to ride a 1000lb animal for a living with no insurance policy certainly has earned my respect. Saying that Nakatani seems to have lost the edge that once made him one of the best Jockies around. Too bad really...right now he's riding not to get hurt.

Can I blame him? No, but the best riders don't go out there thinking I think I will take the safest way around.

TitanSooner 12-21-2008 06:34 PM

thanks.. get this 5 home Potts.. he looks very good on the track

CSC 12-21-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Note: I like Nakatini as a jockey

How is he suppose to ride that mount out when the horse is weaving in front of him.

I didn't see the head on, but how the horse didn't get taken down off the pan view alone was horrible.

I don't want to get into a great debate about this, but IMO but had he slid outside after the horse went in front of him he could have kept riding instead of pulling up the horse. Granted it's a split second decision but as I said he just quitted after the horse went into his path.

CSC 12-21-2008 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings
I didn't go over my head...I just don't agree. Is Nakatani supposed to not check, and clip heels and cause a spill. I agree the 5 should have come down, but don't think Nakatani had many options that didn't endanger all the horses and jockeys involved.

Fair enough, we see it differently.

3kings 12-21-2008 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Of course he should have checked. And I agree he didn't have many options. I thought he acted a little more than he needed to. Maybe I'll think different when I watch the replay again later. He was running out of horse, but I thought he overacted.

I think he was trying to sell it for the DQ because he knew the other horse was much the best. I also don't think he realized it would cost him 2 placings.

CSC 12-21-2008 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
So who wins the last at Hollywood?

Don's Early Flight. ;)

CSC 12-21-2008 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings
I think he was trying to sell it for the DQ because he knew the other horse was much the best. I also don't think he realized it would cost him 2 placings.

Agreed, he not only tried to oversell it but he stopped riding, the latter is a no no in horseracing. Regardless I don't agree with the stewards that the 5 was clear. Was he the best, yes but the horse went into the path of another horse when he was not clear.

3kings 12-21-2008 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner
thanks.. get this 5 home Potts.. he looks very good on the track

Nice job Titan, congrats!


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