Not sure I'd definitely put him in that category automatically either. He hasn't had great stock lately, and the ones that were actually good (i.e. Midnight Lute, Midshipman) ran like it.

mr frankel? LOL

best friends. my wife is my bff!! I tell her that every day! :$:

:D

well I was wrong LOL

I do like baffert even if he does or does not cheat.

It seems like all the top guys do it... so I guess we can either not care or not bet.

Oh my God.


MORTY!!!

He comes on with Steve on ATR on the rare occasion, since he might lurk here it is important to only say it's a suspicion. But one I feel he may be no different than Todd, except he was smart enough to avoid detection. Thus he has looked more human the past few years.

You are definately talking about Chuck Simon... I've suspected him of cheating ever since Battle Won.

;)

We know Chuck doesn't cheat...look at his win %. :)

It's a joke, don't blast me for that anyone.

Before this turns into the Ox Bow Incident, be aware that the violation is for Penicillin G Procaine, a Class 3 violation. This is a routine antibiotic used regularly with horses for a million reasons. It is not something that is going to enhance performance.

What is stunning about this is how stupid a thing it is for the Pletcher barn to have been using in close proximity to a major event. It is amazing that a guy who runs a business like Pletcher, would allow use of Penicillin G Procaine near one of his Breeders' Cup scheduled runners even 45 or 60 days out.

And scheduled withdrawl for it is 15 days...

This isn't 'cheating'.. It's sloppiness.

LOL

Kapets is right though.. antibiotics dont seem too much like performance enhancing drugs. Maybe Chuck can weigh in.

i will guess 235. :D

interesting take!!

Well, nobody is free from suspicion these days... hell I hear Hank is rippin' up the shakes these days.... :p

For the record, I haven't followed Chuck's horses in awhile but I have no doubt he is a very good trainer. I do recall him years ago doing some wonderful things with some of horses. In particular one in which he teamed up with Jon Court on which was a stakes winner. I remember having a bet on that one. :$:

Chuck IS a very good trainer- and I'm not just saying that since I own(ed) horses with him. He runs a tight ship with the equine's best interests in mind, knows the abilities of his current stock, has a great eye at the sales, and keeps his owners informed all the time.

So he doesn't get too big a head, 235 is pretty damned low estimate. ;)

Didn't know he used to work for Lukas and Jerkins, anyway thanks for the info.

its gotta be a lil more than that LOL... he is like 6'5"

He's definately improved the DeeTee purchases. Especially Sumwonlovesyou. Chucks got skillz.

My boss doesn't use PPG because of the insane withdrawl time... no matter what it says the withdrawal time is, you can't go by it... there's several drugs out there like that... which is why they always make it a point to say "Suggested" Withdrawal times. If we have to treat a horse with Penn, we will give Potassium Penicillin because you could actually use it pretty close to a race (not that you'd really WANT to, because it'll flatten them).