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10 pnt move up 10-04-2008 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I really don't care.

me neither, it just matters if I can make money on the race, whether its called the Champagne or 5th at Los Al.

But your response just echoes my intended point that the sport as its currently organized yields a giant "who cares".

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
me neither, it just matters if I can make money on the race, whether its called the Champagne or 5th at Los Al.

But your response just echoes my intended point that the sport as its currently organized yields a giant "who cares".


Why, because the Eclipse Awards are relatively meaningless? So what. The game is funded by bettors. That is who and what I care most about. That, thankfully, has nothing to do with who wins Eclipse Awards.

10 pnt move up 10-04-2008 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Why, because the Eclipse Awards are relatively meaningless? So what. The game is funded by bettors. That is who and what I care most about. That, thankfully, has nothing to do with who wins Eclipse Awards.

true, maybe its me but it was alot more fun when the races seemed to me something a little bit more.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
true, maybe its me but it was alot more fun when the races seemed to me something a little bit more.


Pretty much all the races I follow mean something to me.

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-04-2008 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Pretty much all the races I follow mean something to me.

Me too, especially when I :$:

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-04-2008 09:36 AM

Jamaica - 4/7/6
Frizette - 5/6/10/2
Champagne - 5/10/2/1

Bobby Fischer 10-04-2008 12:56 PM

i worry about Cribnote breaking down. He has that left front and he tries hard every time.

Bobby Fischer 10-04-2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm not following you (nothing new). Could you explain this one please?

His left front swings out wide like a tendon or something.

he's in my watch list as "big maiden win, bad left-front"

then I noticed he has ran back since and he blew the turn in that race, and still had the same action.

It is easy to see in the head on replays.

Betsy 10-04-2008 03:52 PM

Sky Diva Wins the Friztte easily!!

Very happy to see another graded SW for Sky Mesa who has really turned things around.

I was also very pleased by War Echo's effort. This half to Pyro chased sizzling fractions and hung tough until the late stages.

Persistently, as I thought, appears to be a filly who will always find one or two better than her

ateamstupid 10-04-2008 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy
Sky Diva Wins the Friztte easily!!

Very happy to see another graded SW for Sky Mesa who has really turned things around.

I was also very pleased by War Echo's effort. This half to Pyro chased sizzling fractions and hung tough until the late stages.

Persistently, as I thought, appears to be a filly who will always find one or two better than her

Persistently is just too slow early for these one-turn races. She's got quite the nice turn of foot though.

Pedigree Ann 10-04-2008 04:36 PM

A lot of people apparently didn't believe their own eyes when Vineyard Haven ran so well to win at Saratoga. So they bet down horses he beat, and then he runs away from them again. Because they don't like his name? Or his connections? Or his looks? What?:confused:

Betsy 10-04-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Persistently is just too slow early for these one-turn races. She's got quite the nice turn of foot though.

She does have a good turn of foot, but I don't know that she can sustain it. She's not truly explosive like Stardom Bound (who I pray can transfer her form to the dirt - I suspect she can, but you never know). I don't know - she's a very nice filly, but I kind of have my doubts

What did you think of War Echo? I thought she ran great, chasing fast fractions and not giving in. I know Gemswick still beat her for third, but isn't it considered harder to chase fast fractions than to set them while loose on the lead? I give Gemswick a lot of credit for holding her own, but I admit my eyes were on War Echo.

Betsy 10-04-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
A lot of people apparently didn't believe their own eyes when Vineyard Haven ran so well to win at Saratoga. So they bet down horses he beat, and then he runs away from them again. Because they don't like his name? Or his connections? Or his looks? What?:confused:

VH ran great, but it's too bad none of the other horses did any running......

ateamstupid 10-04-2008 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
A lot of people apparently didn't believe their own eyes when Vineyard Haven ran so well to win at Saratoga. So they bet down horses he beat, and then he runs away from them again. Because they don't like his name? Or his connections? Or his looks? What?:confused:

What are you talking about? He was the second choice.

Besides, in the Hopeful, he almost got run down by a horse that took a right turn at the top of the stretch and a speed horse that had a miserable break, and his time wasn't fast.. You really can't see why some people would be turned off?

He ran very well today.


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