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GPK 09-30-2008 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Wasn't Araafa the favorite that day?

Either way, I totally agree. The Mile is always the toughest for me to figure out and the public seems to have the same problem.


yea...3-1. Aragorn was 4-1

cakes44 09-30-2008 12:31 PM

This sounds bad after he won the year after, but IMO Artie Schiller had no business being the favorite in the Mile at Lone Star in 2004.

VOL JACK 09-30-2008 12:52 PM

The bad fav this year will be whoever is favored in the sprint... Lute or Fab strike would be my guess.

brockguy 09-30-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Dylan Thomas '07 Turf:wf

Totally agree. I think he was 6/5 or around that.. He had no chance with the ground. i backed Shamdinan though..

banter 09-30-2008 12:58 PM

Yes, I checked the BC stats, and it was Araafa (finished 9th) that went off at 3/1. Gorella (finished 7th) was second favorite at 7/2.

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-30-2008 01:08 PM

e channel ..? when mesque a.put on a school..:tro:

gpk ball bust!!

Indian Charlie 09-30-2008 01:09 PM

I've never been more sure of a favorite losing a race as I was with Rubiano in the 1992 sprint.

banter 09-30-2008 01:11 PM

What about Riboletta in the '00 Distaff? Left the gate at 2/5 and finished 7th in a 9-horse field. Spain was the winner at about 55/1 (whoo, I would have liked some of that action).

Indian Charlie 09-30-2008 01:14 PM

oh, and groovy against very subtle, that had to be the least likely win by a favorite in BC history.

RolloTomasi 09-30-2008 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by banter
What about Riboletta in the '00 Distaff? Left the gate at 2/5 and finished 7th in a 9-horse field. Spain was the winner at about 55/1 (whoo, I would have liked some of that action).

Riboletta was a desrving favorite. She got injured in the Distaff from what was reported.

cakes44 09-30-2008 01:28 PM

Cuvee from the 12 hole at 8-5 I think, 1st time around 2 turns, and a son of Carson City was a solid toss in '03 as well. He finished last I believe.

Revidere 09-30-2008 03:56 PM

Mogambo, 1985 Juvenile. Hated Aqueduct, loved Belmont.

Slewbopper 10-01-2008 07:34 PM

Fu Peg at 6/5. Finished 6th beaten by 4 other 3 yos and Lemon Drop Kid

lemoncrush 10-01-2008 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
The bad fav this year will be whoever is favored in the sprint... Lute or Fab strike would be my guess.

Street Boss will be the M/L favorite, and I assume postt ime fave this year. No chance Lute or Fab Strike will be favored with the campaigns (or lack of campaigns) they've had this year, despite their reputations.

ELA 10-01-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44
Cuvee from the 12 hole at 8-5 I think, 1st time around 2 turns, and a son of Carson City was a solid toss in '03 as well. He finished last I believe.

Cuvee was the favorite, 8-5, maybe 3-2, I don't remember. Although I tossed him, on paper he was appeared to be one of the strongest favorites; primarily because there were several horses where the connections just decided not to run. Well they don't run the race on paper. I think a lot of the expected contenders didn't run as expected in their final preps. Pletcher had Chapel Royal, but I am not sure if he any others in there, and he was pretty heavy in 2yo's that year. Zito as well.

Cuvee was coming off two impressive wins if I remember correctly, but he screamed sprinter and I don't think anyone was enthusiastic about him stretching out (Asmussen and Bailey). I don't remember who it was, but I think only one horse in the field had a two turn win. Anyway, Cuvee was last, but he got beat about 100 lengths and walked across the wire.


Eric

RollerDoc 10-01-2008 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by smuthg
Wasn't Henny Hughes a ridiculously low price in the Sprint that year also? maybe even money.


Yeah, I thought Henny Hughes was a sure thing. I think I suckered myself into the Bernardini - Discreet Cat hype figuring he could piggyback off their success since the connections were the same.

RolloTomasi 10-02-2008 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ELA
Cuvee was coming off two impressive wins if I remember correctly, but he screamed sprinter and I don't think anyone was enthusiastic about him stretching out (Asmussen and Bailey). I don't remember who it was, but I think only one horse in the field had a two turn win.

Action This Day had the two turn win. Possibly That's An Outrage, too. Both in maiden races at the Oak Tree meet.

ELA 10-02-2008 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Action This Day had the two turn win. Possibly That's An Outrage, too. Both in maiden races at the Oak Tree meet.

You are right, I forgot about Action This Day. Actually, I was thinking about the Walden horse, Tiger Hunt. For whatever reason I forgot his name. I don't remember ATD breaking his maiden, nor the other horse. I would suspect Eurosilver might have been the favorite, co-favorite, strong second choice had Zito ran him.

Eric

GPK 10-02-2008 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
e channel ..? when mesque a.put on a school..:tro:

gpk ball bust!!


Just now saw this:rolleyes:
Miesques Approval won the Mile.

EC ran in the Turf all 3 attempts and never went to post as the favorite.:D

philcski 10-02-2008 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ELA
You are right, I forgot about Action This Day. Actually, I was thinking about the Walden horse, Tiger Hunt. For whatever reason I forgot his name. I don't remember ATD breaking his maiden, nor the other horse. I would suspect Eurosilver might have been the favorite, co-favorite, strong second choice had Zito ran him.

Eric

... and ATD was not NEARLY the most impressive 2YO male winner that weekend at Santa Anita. Another colt broke his maiden that Friday in a huge performance that went on to do big things, can you name him?


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