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1st_Saturday_in_May 07-30-2006 04:36 PM

1. Spun Sugar
2. Balletto
3. Pool Land
4. Take D'Tour
5. Nothing But Fun
6. Oonagh Maccool

Scurlogue Champ 07-30-2006 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
No, but if you want to know what I think about many of their horses you need only to read the piece I wrote about Darley's dominance that I worte a few months ago...

And where is that piece published??

2MinsToPost 07-30-2006 04:39 PM

thats what i am talkin bout

boldruler 07-30-2006 04:41 PM

Finally I cashed a ticket. She was a great value in that one.

2MinsToPost 07-30-2006 04:42 PM

the betting public lost on this one. throw out last time out with this horse. Spun Sugar is no joke, point blank.

whorstman 07-30-2006 04:42 PM

Yeah I went 10 and 5 on her. Nice return for the value.

Cunningham Racing 07-30-2006 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moodwalker
And where is that piece published??

LINK


...it is here on Derby Trail...I wrote it as a favor to Steve Byk....I am involved in a lot of journalism in the industry but this was written strictly for this forum...I wrote this after Bernardini cruised in the Preakness and I had an epiphany.....

BTW, Balletto should have won the Go for Wand at 11-1 with a better trip....SS just had a bigger heart and Balletto hung inside the sixteenth pole....

boldruler 07-30-2006 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
LINK


...it is here on Derby Trail...I wrote it as a favor to Steve Byk....I am involved in a lot of journalism in the industry but this was written strictly for this forum...I wrote this after Bernardini cruised in the Preakness and I had an epiphany.....

BTW, Balletto should have won the Go for Wand at 11-1 with a better trip....SS just had a bigger heart and Balletto hung inside the sixteenth pole....

Stop it with the should have won garbage. SS was the well deserving winner. I give you a ton of credit for your article, but the best girl one today.

I hope Darley won't go backrupt with just a second place check. ;)

Scurlogue Champ 07-30-2006 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
LINK


...it is here on Derby Trail...I wrote it as a favor to Steve Byk....I am involved in a lot of journalism in the industry but this was written strictly for this forum...I wrote this after Bernardini cruised in the Preakness and I had an epiphany.....

BTW, Balletto should have won the Go for Wand at 11-1 with a better trip....SS just had a bigger heart and Balletto hung inside the sixteenth pole....

I have read it Joel, and I agree that all of the horses you mentioned are very talented.

When they have so many horses to choose from, it is due time that they start winning the big ones regularly.

They sure do have a lot of slow-ass horses around the world though. Some in Australia and the U.K. that I have seen don't belong in a claiming race at Churchill.

I wonder what their success rate is as far as earnings/costs? How many horses do they race/breed every year that never amount to anything?

Is there anywhere to look at this data?

Do you feel that their business practices are prudent? Although it is hard to envision making decisions where money was no issue.

By the way, I think Shamardal will be a very successful stallion for them. Your thoughts?

Cunningham Racing 07-30-2006 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moodwalker
I have read it Joel, and I agree that all of the horses you mentioned are very talented.

When they have so many horses to choose from, it is due time that they start winning the big ones regularly.

They sure do have a lot of slow-ass horses around the world though. Some in Australia and the U.K. that I have seen don't belong in a claiming race at Churchill.

I wonder what their success rate is as far as earnings/costs? How many horses do they race/breed every year that never amount to anything?

Is there anywhere to look at this data?

Do you feel that their business practices are prudent? Although it is hard to envision making decisions where money was no issue.

By the way, I think Shamardal will be a very successful stallion for them. Your thoughts?

I love Sharmadal and do think he will be a very productive stallion for them if the Giant's Causeways prove to be decent studs...

As for whether or not they run a prudent opperation...of course not, but what big time owners are rational with their money in this game?....none of them....owning racehorses is a losing proposition for 95+% of owners and that is just a fact...the economics of this game are ass-backwards....the top trainers and jockeys are the only horsermen who make money in this game because the owners are the ones that pay the bills on everything...just a disappointing fact on how upside down this game is.....

You have to treat this game as a hobby and not an investment...you have to know that every dime you put into this game you can't really count on getting back....that is why the wealth of the Shieks should allow them to be dominant....there is no financial risks for people that wealthy...


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