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blackthroatedwind 09-23-2008 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dalakhani
He lost by a nose to honour and glory in the kings bishop after running 6f in 108 and 4/5 and i think there was an allowance race ( loss at belmont) where he set the fractions and got caught at the wire.

Yeah...he was fast. That loss in the KB had to be heartbreaking because he was clear with like 100 yards to go before H and G caught him at the wire.

If memory serves me right, Honour and Glory was ten tons the best that day and got a terrible ride by Santos. I'll have to go check Youtube.

But, you're right, Elusive Quality was pretty good on the dirt. His big turf wins were aided by extremely hard turf at Belmont.

blackthroatedwind 09-23-2008 11:51 PM
Here's a link....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhylcPiZZlA


An odd ride, maybe, but just a good race ultimately. Losing to Honour and Glory in a photo, regardless of circumstances, was no easy feat. He was a tremendously talented horse.

blackthroatedwind 09-24-2008 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
That was a pretty nice field in the King's Bishop. I just got depressed watching some of Honour and Glory's races. He was awesome. Can you imagine the kind of talk he would drum up if he were running today? Nowadays people get excited over Visionaire... :rolleyes:

I was thinking the same thing. Another great example of why some of us get annoyed with some of the recent horses anointed with greatness.

dalakhani 09-24-2008 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I was thinking the same thing. Another great example of why some of us get annoyed with some of the recent horses anointed with greatness.
In watching that replay, the announcer called H and G the highweight. How was the kings bishop weighted back then and when did they change to equal weights?

hrfan 09-24-2008 12:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqTud...eature=related

hrfan 09-24-2008 12:44 AM
monster....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtOEp...eature=related

hrfan 09-24-2008 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Rock Hard Ten? Seriously?
MONSTER
biggest cash ever when he beat St Liam in the BIG CAP, i want to say they let him go off at 7-2

hrfan 09-24-2008 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
You're a funny dude. I forgot horses talent was based on who you cash with. Since you're on youtube do yourself a favor and try and look at some races prior to the year 2000. I realize the prospect of learning a little and getting some perspective is scary, but it won't hurt you.
if i never cashed on him, he'd still be a monster.... Gary Stevens, who i look at as a top 5 all time Jockey, says Rock Hard Ten is the best horse he ever sat on.

hrfan 09-24-2008 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
You're a funny dude. I forgot horses talent was based on who you cash with. Since you're on youtube do yourself a favor and try and look at some races prior to the year 2000. I realize the prospect of learning a little and getting some perspective is scary, but it won't hurt you.
he was not talented ?

KirisClown 09-24-2008 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
That was a pretty nice field in the King's Bishop. I just got depressed watching some of Honour and Glory's races. He was awesome.
Here's one to feel good about.. I just uploaded his maiden race.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POe1OnbgNIg

It's amazing he held his form for as long as he did in 1996, he danced just about every dance possible that year...

zippyneedsawin 09-24-2008 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hrfan
if i never cashed on him, he'd still be a monster.... Gary Stevens, who i look at as a top 5 all time Jockey, says Rock Hard Ten is the best horse he ever sat on.

He said that about 50 horses he rode.

Indian Charlie 09-24-2008 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by hrfan
if i never cashed on him, he'd still be a monster.... Gary Stevens, who i look at as a top 5 all time Jockey, says Rock Hard Ten is the best horse he ever sat on.
lol.

Indian Charlie 09-24-2008 03:59 AM
By the way, that race with H&G, DH and EQ, someone commented on Youtube that the 2nd and 3rd place finishers each sired a derby winner, and that H&G's best shot at one died.

Any idea who that might be?

hrfan 09-24-2008 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
He said that about 50 horses he rode.
IM young i did not here him speak much


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