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hockey2315 07-26-2008 11:05 AM

calracing.com has NYRA replays for free. . . they're the only place to get them right now. . . if you have a mac (like me) you'll have to pay for a racereplays subscription. . .

ontheoutside 07-26-2008 12:44 PM

thanks hockey
 
thank you so much hockey for imfo your very kind for answering me
thanks again

sumitas 07-26-2008 01:58 PM

do your thing and i'm following your exploits with interest. you're still + .

ontheoutside 07-26-2008 10:36 PM

best value picks from steve saturday
 
dont have to give you a run down today
like i usually do
10 races ran [1 scratch
so i invested 600 got back a place bet in the 9th on copper
it paid 580 so i got 116

so i bet 600 got back 116
so minus 484 for day
was ahead 28
so im losing 456 after 4 day
just a bad day
well get them
take care guys

Past Post 07-26-2008 10:50 PM

With all due respect sir,please stop this madness way of betting.Did you ever hear the saying that you can beat a race not the races.Nobody and I mean nobody can play 10 races a day and end up ahead for the day let alone for the year.If you did want to play every race why would you play one horse out of four posted.Try the gimmicks that he offers, you would stand a far better chance.I would luv to book your action with a 20% rebate back on all your losing bets.Free lunch also.

Kasept 07-27-2008 07:04 AM

I already suggested some boxing, keying and/or P3/P4's.. seemingly to no avail.

geeker2 07-27-2008 07:51 AM

I would quit right after you lost an even $35K...then move over and do the same with Steve's superfecta toss in's. Scientifically this has to work!:tro:

ontheoutside 07-27-2008 09:45 AM

woke this morning with a bevy of negitives on here
 
with 3 post coming to mesaying im ridiculing steves best value picks by posting them on here after the races are done
ive decided not to do it any more
not because im not going to continue betting them
but becuase
if they are right
i dont want to ridicule anyone by posting what has been so far a even week except for one day
i didnt start posting his results to ridicule,
shame,
or imbarress any one
i just thought it would have bben fun to see how he did
but ive heard from 3 different people in private messages that ive gone to far
so if thats the case
im ok with it and as of yesterday
i will not post results
as for you steve
if this is true and i affened you in any way posting these results
i 100% apoligize to you
i never meant it to be a embbaressment,a ridicule,a any thing
you had 1 bad day out of 4
i dont know maybe i think differently then other people
well anyway
knock them dead steve
your show
your
picks
your happiness towards the sport is second to none
take care guys

docicu3 07-27-2008 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside
with 3 post coming to mesaying im ridiculing steves best value picks by posting them on here after the races are done
ive decided not to do it any more
not because im not going to continue betting them
but becuase
if they are right
i dont want to ridicule anyone by posting what has been so far a even week except for one day
i didnt start posting his results to ridicule,
shame,
or imbarress any one
i just thought it would have bben fun to see how he did
but ive heard from 3 different people in private messages that ive gone to far
so if thats the case
im ok with it and as of yesterday
i will not post results
as for you steve
if this is true and i affened you in any way posting these results
i 100% apoligize to you
i never meant it to be a embbaressment,a ridicule,a any thing
you had 1 bad day out of 4
i dont know maybe i think differently then other people
well anyway
knock them dead steve
your show
your
picks
your happiness towards the sport is second to none
take care guys

Play and post what you want and stop letting others tell you what is acceptable. Byk couldn't care less about someone keeping track of value selections on here. He'd probably like to know how he does when he "designates" a pick as "VALUE". The man's skin is clearly not that thin. Track your play and enjoy it...you learn more about your losing plays than a winner ever teaches you.

whorstman 07-27-2008 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docicu3
Play and post what you want and stop letting others tell you what is acceptable. Byk couldn't care less about someone keeping track of value selections on here. He'd probably like to know how he does when he "designates" a pick as "VALUE". The man's skin is clearly not that thin. Track your play and enjoy it...you learn more about your losing plays than a winner ever teaches you.

Exactly, It's a "value Play" which to me means you will get goods odds on a horse that "may" have a chance to do well. I like the post day results.

SundaySilence 07-27-2008 11:32 AM

I think you should absolutely post your results. Steve normally posts how each race day selections do in all exotics and multi-race wagers, so what you are doing is no different, just a subset of the selections that you decide to play. I say continue to post the results, good luck with the plays.

lazytom 07-27-2008 11:58 AM

Do what you do. And have fun doing it.

sumitas 07-27-2008 02:31 PM

Do your thing and if you want to keep posting your results I'd be interested to keep following. This is about having fun.

Miss Pumkin Shell (best value) 12/1 finished 2nd in the 6th. That'll boost your spirits.

ontheoutside 07-27-2008 07:25 PM

ok now i got 5 psot saying to continue to post so i will v
 
i got some very nice reads today about me posting my results [5[ to be exact] so i gues ill continue to do it
and if you dont like please
dont read it
ill see in a hour how i did
a wedding today
blah
will go to cal racing to see results
thanks to hockey telling me about the sight to get new york replays
see you later

ontheoutside 07-27-2008 07:56 PM

steves value picks for sunday
 
only 10 ran
8 were losers
i did pick up in the 6th [he had #9 which finished 2nd at 1180 so i got 236 for that
and in the 10th [ he had #7 which won and payed 1840 & 530 which i got total 290
so i bet 600 got back 526
so i lost 74 for day

i am now minus502 for week
see u tommorrow

ArlJim78 07-27-2008 08:06 PM

these are your plays, so I don't know why you use Steves name on the threads.

Steve posts his own plays based on his picks, and they are not the same as yours.

Bigsmc 07-28-2008 05:15 AM

Thanks to the mods for condensing this into one thread....

gales0678 07-28-2008 08:45 AM

ontheoutside i would like you to make 1 change for next week and keep a running total , i don't want u to bet more , use the same $60 , but , this week instead play $40 to win and $20 to place

you would have one an extra $13 dollars on Sunday's Value picks. i'm sure if we ran the other days and did it with a 40 W 20 P br we would find you would have lost less for the week

let's give it a try this week (starting on Wed to next MON) with a 40 W 20 P bet and see how we do , i do want you to have to play more than your $60 budget, but i want to give you a better chane to increase your ROI - good luck bud

ninetoone 07-28-2008 08:51 AM

Best value in the feature today is in ALL CAPS...back up the trucks brother.

sumitas 07-28-2008 03:18 PM

The pressure is mounting :D

My betting style would be climb the ladder across the board if I were to play the best values...wps, $2, $4, $6...I like to play the show as a saver. but to each his own.


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