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Kasept 07-18-2008 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Handicappy
I am just surprised that the handicappers who are very good and knowledgable, including you Steve, think nothing of jumping on someone's thinking. I thought this would be a place where my handicapping could improve and I could learn from you guys. But I really don't want to have to take a load of **** to get there.

No one was jumping on your thinking, but my apologies anyway.

Cannon Shell 07-18-2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Truthfully, I don't know enough about the Barrief Reef, Day Pass or Etched situations to opine on whether you're right or wrong there.

The Byk influence

ateamstupid 07-18-2008 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The Byk influence

I've been saying opine since knee high. Steve is above using words that can be found in a dictionary. He would've used some Etruscan era type word that would've sounded way cooler.

SCUDSBROTHER 07-18-2008 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Part of the problem is that Little Belle was trained by Kiaran McKlaughlin and you are excessively biased towards his barn. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

LOL...Anyways, for a race with 4 betting interests, there is a lot of writing about it.

SniperSB23 07-18-2008 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
LOL...Anyways, for a race with 4 betting interests, there is a lot of writing about it.

Yeah, kind weird. Acoma could easily be head and shoulders above the rest but if she doesn't like the distance then it would seem to set up Music Note. I'm of the camp that whether Acoma is good enough or not, it won't be Little Belle winning it. Sucks that to take a stand against Little Belle you have to bet against Music Note as well. Makes the race totally unbettable and is why I hate coupling entries.

cowgirlintexas 07-19-2008 07:20 AM

Just for all this talk of Little Belle being "mediocore", I am hoping she romps today just so it throws all of you into a tizzy:p
She really is a nice little filly that like Cappy says, runs her heart out everytime. Go Belle!

miraja2 07-19-2008 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
Just for all this talk of Little Belle being "mediocore", I am hoping she romps today just so it throws all of you into a tizzy:p
She really is a nice little filly that like Cappy says, runs her heart out everytime. Go Belle!

I don't want to speak for others, but I don't think a Little Belle victory in this race would throw anyone "into a tizzy." Like others here, I believe she is a bit overrated and is certainly not the most likely of winners in this race. However, she was certainly improving in her races this spring, and her last four performances were respectable ones over a sloppy Aqu inner, a fast Aqu inner, the polytrack, and then a sloppy CD. Those are four very different surfaces so she certainly deserves some credit for versatility.
Calling her mediocre isn't the same as calling her terrible. She is a nice filly and COULD win.....but in my opinion she doesn't appear to be one of the top two fillies in this race.

blackthroatedwind 07-19-2008 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
Just for all this talk of Little Belle being "mediocore", I am hoping she romps today just so it throws all of you into a tizzy:p
She really is a nice little filly that like Cappy says, runs her heart out everytime. Go Belle!


This is the kind of silliness that I just love! She's an entry with Music Note......her winning is the same as her stablemate winning. Who cares what half of the 2:5 entry wins? If you bet them ( I think a value mistake ) you win....if you bet Acoma you lose ( if either Music Note or Little Belle wins ).

The only funny thing will be the usual lack of " I guess you guys were right " when Little Belle gets her head handed to her.

miraja2 07-19-2008 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
This is the kind of silliness that I just love! She's an entry with Music Note......her winning is the same as her stablemate winning. Who cares what half of the 2:5 entry wins? If you bet them ( I think a value mistake ) you win....if you bet Acoma you lose ( if either Music Note or Little Belle wins ).

The only funny thing will be the usual lack of " I guess you guys were right " when Little Belle gets her head handed to her.

Do you think there is any chance we might get 5/2 or better on Acoma?
I'm afraid with her last out BSF she may go off at more like 8/5.

blackthroatedwind 07-19-2008 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Do you think there is any chance we might get 5/2 or better on Acoma?
I'm afraid with her last out BSF she may go off at more like 8/5.

It's hard to say.

Bobby Fischer 07-19-2008 09:56 AM

Non Wagering Event on a GradeI
 
this race is impossible to bet.

CSC 07-19-2008 10:01 AM

I think Acoma will be tough in here also guys, she's a half to Arch and Festival of Light. Very well related, in the dogwood she showed real grit to get up, if she gets a trip today put her on top for me also.

Danzig 07-19-2008 10:41 AM

i think acoma is the obvious choice if you're looking to beat the entry. i think never retreat won't like the distance.

CSC 07-19-2008 08:24 PM

I was wrong, but surely she can run better than what she showed today.


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