I have never heard of anyone using Guanabenz for any reason other than as a hop. I have never heard it prescribed as a medication for a problem in a horse. As a matter of fact I did not even know it was legal for use in this country. It has been around for a while and there was talk a few years ago that the rise of a certain trainer in NY was directly related to use of this. It seems like a strange penalty for a class 2 drug

I fully respect your responses on this issue "Cannon Shell" and I am not really asking you to "call out" one of your collegues. As a long time owner, the fact that guanabenz was being used seems to indicate to me that there was "intent" to gain a drug-induced advantage.

As you have said in many other posts we are all in this together. The owners need to take responsibility as well as trainers and vets. If this happened to one of my horses they would be gone from the trainer in a heartbeat.

I would hope that owners/trainers have some sort of dialogue about how a horse is trained and exactly what they use their vet for. When "selecting" a trainer we had long conversations about exactly what type of "vet" work I would accept.