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Cannon Shell 07-07-2008 02:07 PM
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salt water?
I like the thought.. maybe Epsom Salt water that may help take the sting out of the horses feet?

Cannon Shell 07-07-2008 02:08 PM
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Would a knight lie?
A lie is not a lie if you believe it to be true...

parsixfarms 07-07-2008 02:35 PM
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I think lots of horseman would welcome poly/synthetic track instead of the Inner at the Big A.. The winter is rough and poly has to be easier to maintain. Having a track that is good shape to train and race on all winter isn't too bad an idea. So much money is spent opening and closing and harrowing tracks in the winter. it's a lot of work and it comes at a huge cost. Do you really love that inner biasis towards speed? Plus maybe they can have the main Aqueduct track open a tad bit earlier they already are racing on the turf two weeks before they used too with the advent of the plastic wrap
I always thought that, if NYRA was going to do a racing surface in synthetic, the Aqueduct main track would be the way to go. You could eliminate the inner dirt track (and create a wider turf course), and also allow for 7F and one-turn mile races during the winter, as opposed to the 6F or two-turn situation that we see with the inner.

If the potentially cold weather would be a problem at Aqueduct, why would it any less of a problem on the Belmont training track?

freddymo 07-07-2008 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by parsixfarms
I always thought that, if NYRA was going to do a racing surface in synthetic, the Aqueduct main track would be the way to go. You could eliminate the inner dirt track (and create a wider turf course), and also allow for 7F and one-turn mile races during the winter, as opposed to the 6F or two-turn situation that we see with the inner.

If the potentially cold weather would be a problem at Aqueduct, why would it any less of a problem on the Belmont training track?

Although I am sure sir Simon is speaking from some past history and experience I am sure that Synthetics of some sort will work out fine once the right formula is worked out. I agree that might make some sense.. I have always thought the inner meet was a step child and I wouldn't screw with the main track but I guess you could.. Andy would know best what is on NYRA's mind... anyway they have no money so it is all BS for now

the_fat_man 07-07-2008 02:58 PM
'TURFlike' racing in the dead of winter in NY. Where do I sign up?

freddymo 07-07-2008 03:11 PM
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'TURFlike' racing in the dead of winter in NY. Where do I sign up?
I agree it is less then ideal.. Consider that horseman need a reliable track to condition their stock.. When the weather is really bad how can they do this? Plus NYRA losses a lot of dates when it's a rough winter so the alternative to Turflike racing is perhaps no racing at all. Most of the high powered barns and owners are following the sun so the only people who do suffer are the few that really can't afford to ship to warmer climates. Other then closing it down for 100 days a year it kind of makes some sense to mitigate the weather of winter and race on something synthetic.

Cannon Shell 07-07-2008 04:08 PM
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I agree it is less then ideal.. Consider that horseman need a reliable track to condition their stock.. When the weather is really bad how can they do this? Plus NYRA losses a lot of dates when it's a rough winter so the alternative to Turflike racing is perhaps no racing at all. Most of the high powered barns and owners are following the sun so the only people who do suffer are the few that really can't afford to ship to warmer climates. Other then closing it down for 100 days a year it kind of makes some sense to mitigate the weather of winter and race on something synthetic.
There is a better shot of the fat Man sliming down and riding on the inner track as a 10 pound bug than there is of NYRA shutting down in the winter. The NY breeders would start jumping off the Throgs neck bridge in protest.

GenuineRisk 07-07-2008 05:43 PM
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And what of the windchill?
Wind chill is a figure meant to estimate heat being taken away from a living endothermic body; the wind doesn't actually change the air temperature.

That said, air temperature is usually measured a few feet above the ground, so the ground can be a couple of degrees colder than the air temperature.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled synthetic track discussion.

Cannon Shell 07-07-2008 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
Wind chill is a figure meant to estimate heat being taken away from a living endothermic body; the wind doesn't actually change the air temperature.

That said, air temperature is usually measured a few feet above the ground, so the ground can be a couple of degrees colder than the air temperature.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled synthetic track discussion.
I think that Polytrack is considered a living endothermic body according to the Bid.

sumitas 07-07-2008 06:14 PM
Couldn't they heat the aw tracks ? They heat football fields so they don't freeze.

blackthroatedwind 07-07-2008 06:15 PM
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Couldn't they heat the aw tracks ? They heat football fields so they don't freeze.

The streak continues.

sumitas 07-07-2008 06:30 PM
What about the fog ? Something has got to be done about dat !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1QQfpbCiw4

GenuineRisk 07-07-2008 08:50 PM
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I think that Polytrack is considered a living endothermic body according to the Bid.
I think I see a plot for a horror movie here...

The Fog
The Blob
The Poly

Bobby Fischer 07-08-2008 10:41 AM
Forget AW

Aqueduct inner should install my Pay Dirt™ SYSTEM .

A proprietary blend featuring Safety Soil™ (a unique system of banking at the rail for drainage)

we oughta cut a small-time deal to install carpet, i mean Pay Dirt, for a small short term profit for my buddies, in the name of safety.


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