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blackthroatedwind 06-22-2008 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
WHAT about in the first ?


Obviously he cost his mount a win in the first.

jcs11204 06-22-2008 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Obviously he cost his mount a win in the first.

yea

AeWingnut 06-22-2008 03:54 PM

it may be lunacy but I don't see a perfect ride in the 2nd. I see a guy that is day dreaming

blackthroatedwind 06-22-2008 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
No one said it was perfect, whatever that is. But to blame him when the horse is an obvious money burner is incorrect IMO.


I'm not sure what perfect is but under the circumstances he did absolutely nothing wrong. He lost to a better horse who got a good trip as well. If you criticize the ride that John Velasquez gave in the second race today you have no credibility. It's as simple as that.

jcs11204 06-22-2008 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I'm not sure what perfect is but under the circumstances he did absolutely nothing wrong. He lost to a better horse who got a good trip as well. If you criticize the ride that John Velasquez gave in the second race today you have no credibility. It's as simple as that.

LAYING THE LAW DOWN

Bigsmc 06-22-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
LAYING THE LAW DOWN

Easy there Li'l Andy.

reese 06-22-2008 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'd like to know when the last time Jorge Chavez got a horse out of the gate cleanly. Can't be this year right?




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Originally Posted by jcs11204
hes all done

Not quite...won nightcap todayat Belmont.
8 Dr Silver Packet Chavez Jorge F. 123 40.60 15.40 8.40
5 Come On Chas Desormeaux Kent J. 123 4.20 3.30
2 Precise Action Maragh Rajiv 123 3.90

blackthroatedwind 06-22-2008 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Hope you crushed it. Doesn't change that he is a bit tardy out of the gate frequently.

I love how whenever you make a correct criticism of a rider, Chavez has real gate problems, someone shows up with their next winner.....as though that has anything to do with what you were talking about.

Unless I missed your post where you said Jorge Chavez would never win another race.

hockey2315 06-22-2008 05:35 PM

The favorite in the 2nd was losing no matter what. . . I'd like to see how Pegasian would've done with a clear run.

hockey2315 06-22-2008 05:39 PM

and who is JR Velasquez?

the_fat_man 06-22-2008 05:51 PM

The THREE STOOGES coming down the lane: Gomez, Prado, and Cornelio.

One sticking righty on the rail; the other sticking to the 2 path as if it were golden; and the 3rd yet to be introduced to the loose rein method of riding -- it's a machismo thing. Bouncing around like pinballs.

herkhorse 06-22-2008 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Easy there Li'l Andy.

:tro:

jcs11204 06-22-2008 06:02 PM

i think i am starting to realize something......
horse racing is 95% about the jockey/trip you get...
these last few days, i have been on a coast to coast pick 4 binge... and i have seen some horrible trips, horses who were much the best, losing because of the jockey.

jcs11204 06-22-2008 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
The favorite in the 2nd was losing no matter what. . . I'd like to see how Pegasian would've done with a clear run.

i will tell you....
he would have won... and i would have had a nice score.
all about the trip

hockey2315 06-22-2008 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i will tell you....
he would have won... and i would have had a nice score.
all about the trip

He probably would've. . . and I bet him too. I was actually more mad at Corny at the time than I am now. Sure, he didn't give his horse any room to run in the stretch and ended up getting stopped by the 3, but I'm not really sure what he could've done differently. . . the whole just wouldn't open up. Peagasian is obviously one to look for next time, but don't be surprised if he's 2-1.

jcs11204 06-22-2008 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
He probably would've. . . and I bet him too. I was actually more mad at Corny at the time than I am now. Sure, he didn't give his horse any room to run in the stretch and ended up getting stopped by the 3, but I'm not really sure what he could've done differently. . . the whole just wouldn't open up. Peagasian is obviously one to look for next time, but don't be surprised if he's 2-1.

i guess... i thought he was strong the whole time, then he seemed to hesitate just a little when it opened, by then it was to late, if he goes outside, hes hung 4-5 wide, but is he a winner ? i had him win/place, i would have took second at 9-1

ArlJim78 06-22-2008 06:24 PM

forget about Chavezs ride in the last, how about the horse? where did that come from? i went extra deep in that leg and didn't use the 8.
unfortunately that was the story of my whole day.


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