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jcs11204 06-18-2008 10:25 AM

Joey The Hitman
Classic

pgardn 06-18-2008 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
i got stumped trying to figure out the last thing I read on personal time that wasn't PP's, the racing form, or horse racing message boards or blogs.

People that can concentrate on one thing for long periods of time amaze me.
This is of course why I like this board so much. We got people who can think horses 24/7.

I gotta take a break on almost anything I do for too long.

hockey2315 06-18-2008 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
have considered getting that-let me know if it's good.

it's very good. . .

pgardn 06-18-2008 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
it's very good. . .

Is this by Dawkins, Richard Dawkins the evolutionary biologist?

Cajungator26 06-18-2008 11:27 AM

I just picked up They Marched Into Sunlight: War and Peace Vietnam and America October 1967 by David Maraniss.

pgardn 06-18-2008 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Is this by Dawkins, Richard Dawkins the evolutionary biologist?

I looked it up and it is.

The Selfish Gene was one of the most influential books
I ever read. Now that I look back upon it, it was over the
top. But the ideas were astounding. A completely diff. way
of viewing life.

Dawkins is very well known for pricking at religion. He thrives
on it. Climbing Mount Improbable, practically all his books
rake religion.

I did not know he was having another go at it.

ArlJim78 06-18-2008 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
People that can concentrate on one thing for long periods of time amaze me.
This is of course why I like this board so much. We got people who can think horses 24/7.

I gotta take a break on almost anything I do for too long.

oh i take forced breaks from horses all the time. its called my job. otherwise its horses.

Danzig 06-18-2008 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
it's very good. . .

looks like i'll be adding to my library....

herkhorse 06-18-2008 08:59 PM

I've been reading The Berenstain Bears, good stuff.

Seriously though, the last book I read was Ishmael. That was about a year and a half ago before my kid could walk and talk. Now I'm too tired to read.

pgardn 06-18-2008 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
I've been reading The Berenstain Bears, good stuff.

Seriously though, the last book I read was Ishmael. That was about a year and a half ago before my kid could walk and talk. Now I'm too tired to read.

God bless you for reading to your kid(s).

pgardn 06-18-2008 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
looks like i'll be adding to my library....

If you like the book hockey mentioned,
you may have to add The Blind Watchmaker.

And anyone please add as I am still pondering.
It is also interesting to see what people are interested in
outside of horses.

geeker2 06-19-2008 09:35 AM

"The Great Thebby" by F. Mortimer Fitzgerald

paisjpq 06-19-2008 08:16 PM

I recommend the great thebby....though it is an incomplete work....


i just finished a great book (sent to me by a very generous sometime DT'r)

Madness: A Bipolar Life by Marya Horbacher

and am half way through

Mustang: The Saga of the Wild Horse in the AMerican West by Deanne Stillman

also have to recommend Beautiful Boy: a Father's Journey through his Son's Addiction by David Scheff...and with it you have to read his son's book Tweak: Growing up on Methamphetamines

they are all good and non-fiction.

Danzig 06-19-2008 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
If you like the book hockey mentioned,
you may have to add The Blind Watchmaker.

And anyone please add as I am still pondering.
It is also interesting to see what people are interested in
outside of horses.

what's the blind watchmaker?

hockey2315 06-19-2008 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
what's the blind watchmaker?

It's by Dawkins as well - The God Delusion is a little more interesting in my opinion. . . The Blind Watchmaker focuses mostly on evolution. . .

pgardn 06-19-2008 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
what's the blind watchmaker?

It is mainly about evolution (as mentioned above) having no ultimate purpose
or direction. Thus implying the big guy (God), making those precise
Watches, went about it in a blind way.

So I guess the God Delusion would be the next fit.

Dawkins is a Brit who pulls no punches.
He will tell you how he feels and more.
His American atheist audience is huge.

Stephen J. Gould and Dawkins both excellent writers
on evolution. Gould did not try to rile quite as much.
RIP. Gould was one of my all time favorites. A harder
read than Asimov, but very good.

I gotta go with something Historical. The Adams book sounds
good.

miraja2 06-20-2008 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
mccullough is excellent.
i also recommend alexander hamiltons bio by ron chernow. fantastic book, great subject.

Stuff like that is okay, if that is the kind of stuff you like. I'm not going to tell people what to read, but if you are really interested in history I would suggest reading stuff written by actual historians instead.
Neither McCullough nor Chernow are trained historians and it shows in their work. They are both good writers, and that is why they win awards like the Pulitzer, but the quality of their scholarship is more than questionable.
Ellis - who you also mentioned - actually IS a PhD and his work is (not surprisingly) a little bit better.
If you are really interested in something like the American Revolution and Early Republic however, I would reccomend reading the stuff from real scholars like Rosemarie Zagarri, Woody Holton, T.H. Breen etc. It might not always be as cleverly written as the stuff the journalists like Chernow produce, but the level of analysis dwarfs anything these untrained people attempt.

pgardn 06-20-2008 12:31 AM

What was written by Miraja above is a huge problem in Science.
But writers like Asimov, Gould, Dawkins, are all writers
that have done real science. Same for Sagan. Even though
he got a little maudlin at times with the sci fi. Also RIP.

Sagan wrote a great book on what science is and is not
that should be read by all who like the power of logic and
reasoning, "The Demon Haunted World". Of course one could
conclude that the book is terribly flawed, look who recommends it.
:zz:

hockey2315 06-20-2008 12:52 AM

Love Sagan. . . Have you read Smolin's "The Trouble with Physics"? I have it but can't decide if I feel like reading it yet. . .

Danzig 06-20-2008 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Stuff like that is okay, if that is the kind of stuff you like. I'm not going to tell people what to read, but if you are really interested in history I would suggest reading stuff written by actual historians instead.
Neither McCullough nor Chernow are trained historians and it shows in their work. They are both good writers, and that is why they win awards like the Pulitzer, but the quality of their scholarship is more than questionable.
Ellis - who you also mentioned - actually IS a PhD and his work is (not surprisingly) a little bit better.
If you are really interested in something like the American Revolution and Early Republic however, I would reccomend reading the stuff from real scholars like Rosemarie Zagarri, Woody Holton, T.H. Breen etc. It might not always be as cleverly written as the stuff the journalists like Chernow produce, but the level of analysis dwarfs anything these untrained people attempt.

i read a little bit of everything, minus science fiction and romance novels. i have some history books here as well, both american and european.

i forgot to also recommend the two books on hitler, 'hubris' and 'nemesis' by ian kershaw. also 'constantine's sword' by james carroll.

i have american creation by jos. ellis, but haven't read it yet. one of the books i'll take on vacation.


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