i dont really even know. i mainly play pick 3 and 4... once in a while i will throw in a exacta or win/place bet... but when i got to otb, or the track the gameplan is pick 3 and 4...
i dont know what i want to learn to be honest, i find my tickets normally looking like this....4-3-2
or 3-3-3-1, i always seem to catch early, be live to a nice payout and i can never close, cause im never deep in the back end ?

your right, i see horses who ran huge, or maybe that i have cashed on, or anything by giants causeway, and i use them... teach me to break this horrible habit, please
i think im addicted to giants causeway's i scan pp's everynight of tracks looking for anything by him, is that a problem ?

That's not what I heard....

:zz: :rolleyes: try re reading crist book..look up some beyer stuff some davidowitz....

i am going to re read it, starting that tonight when i get out of work

wow

It could be that you're forcing yourself to go skinny towards the end of tickets. When putting together a pick four, sometimes it's tempting (especially for procrastinators) to go wide in the first few legs, while thinking "I'll just single later." A lot of times, that means you have to single a horse that shouldn't really be a single simply because you want to make the ticket affordable.

This is probably because you're glossing over the first few legs. Go back and see if you can narrow down in the early legs. Then reanalyze your single or skinny leg and see if you're forcing yourself to single a horse you don't love. If you do these things and come to the conclusion that there's no way you'll feel comfortable going one- or two-wide in any leg, PASS ON THE SEQUENCE. There will be plenty of other pick threes and fours to play, and choosing the right sequence will save and make you money.

what ?
it is true, i normally look at cali main track ny main... kentucky and florida

i do force myself all the time, i never want to get knocked out early.

If that's the case, then you're looking for action, not trying to make money.

i believe you - it's just strange. . .

i dont know ?

You would have found a nice little exacta in the 4th on Belmont day if you had used the Giant's Causeway underneath the favorite...

BET YOUR OPINION - leave your emotions and fear of losing out of it.

You are. Read what you said again. "I never want to get knocked out early." Getting knocked out early and getting knocked out late is exactly the same if your primary goal is to make a profit.

i had the giants causeway on top.. at 11-1 and used him 3 deep in pick 3's along with jeremy rose horse, and garcias horse

Good Point!
When you go to OTB, do you handicap before you get there or do you do it on the fly? Also are you betting every race going off?

i do it before, i have the drf.com thing unlimited basic pp's for any track all year

impressive. . . that's like 800 bucks

im going to do something for you
cause i like you
i am pm you soon