At the end of the day, if Curlin and Big Brown don't run in the BCC, who is there to be afraid of?

I don't think Lukas/Paulson saw Azeri beating Ghostzapper.

There aren't many years where it looks like a good time for a girl to tackle the boys at the Grade I level. But this looks like it could be one of those years to me. That's all I'm sayin'.

Look at the fractions of the two races side by side. She could have gone a little faster. Yeah, she can run with Heatseeker.

I'm just hoping the Euros send over some good turf horses to run in the classic to make this thing even remotely interesting.

Yeah seriously. Tell me the major differences in the two races yesterday??

I need to see Zenyatta in a fast pace race, I mean like a 115-120 type pace to see how she would do, on pure talent though she is scary, she runs by horses like they are tied to the hitching post, even when those horses are Ginger Punch and got nice soft cushy perfect trip leads.

Tiago could not beat Zenyatta with a head start, IMHO.

Tell me the difference in how the races were run and the times?? I'd say there is virtually zero difference. At this point in his career I'd say beating Surf Cat is not a major accomplishment. Beating Tiago is nice but that one is hardly a slayer type t-bred. Basically, Heatseeker beat the 2nd best horse in Shirrefs stable.

Again, zero difference basically in the two races if you eliminate the names of the horses.

If BB and Curlin aren't there and Heatseeker is the favorite, even if he beats her, running second in the race wouldn't be bad at all. A second or third in the Classic would be better on her resume, IMO, than a win in the Distaff.

How about the dopes on TVG....saying its been a long long time since Hollywood has seen a filly like this....um Azeri raced there 4 years ago, man people just cant help but getting caught up in todays moment.

I posted earlier without thinking things through. Upon further thought, I'd take Zenyatta over Big Brown at this point. She's been every bit as impressive and has beaten better horses. Ginger Punch is light years better than anything Big Brown has beaten and she looked like a claimer against Zenyatta. And before anyone reminds me that Big Brown has much more room for improvement considering that he's only run five races, think about how many Zenyatta's run.

Just a slight one.

Ashley!!!!

How about reminding you that Big Brown has run at 9f or further 3 times while Zenyatta hasn't been further than 8.5f.

Also, Ginger Punch, a weak champion in a weak division last year has been subpar even for her in all 3 of her 2008 starts. I'd predict an impending retirement as soon as she lines up against another decent horse this year.

I'm not sure how that addresses the fact that both have only run five times and have further room for improvement. In fact, I'd even say that means that Zenyatta has more room since we already know what BB can do at 10f but haven't seen Zenyatta try it yet.

As weak as you may think Ginger Punch is, do you think any of the 3yo's that Big Brown have faced this year are better than her?