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ateamstupid 05-22-2008 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
She also was allowed to herd the second place finisher out about eight paths.

Glad someone mentioned that. Were she not the 3/2 favorite and a $3.2 million purchase, I think she would've been taken down.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-22-2008 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Glad someone mentioned that. Were she not the 3/2 favorite and a $3.2 million purchase, I think she would've been taken down.

That very last bump should of been the cherry on top. It's amazing to me that they think all that has no effect on the outside horse. When you win by a neck, it doesn't take that much interference to cost you the race. I saw one that was even worse at HWD PARK (the Saturday before last.) Very tiny little Mullins filly doing anything possible to keep a bigger horse from going by. I have zero idea why they left her up in that little stakes. They often ignore herding. If you know you're gunna get passed, you might as well try it(because they often let guys get away with it.)

SCUDSBROTHER 05-22-2008 04:19 AM

That's a tough call between Song of Love , and Music Note. Song of Love has already shown the turn of foot to probably overcome the inside post. She is better in the middle of the race, and Music Note is probably a bit better finisher (although that could be shown incorrect if "Song" improves tomorrow.) I don't think I would try to single the race.

Bobby Fischer 05-22-2008 05:17 AM

Music Note - looks the most talented.

Bobby Fischer 05-22-2008 06:04 AM

Music Note

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-22-2008 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
So a show bet on Better Again?

OOOOOO!!!:rolleyes:

Coach Pants 05-22-2008 07:17 AM

Is this the audition room for the DRF's A Closer Look?

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-22-2008 07:35 AM

its a nice race ...unspoken vow ran ok at mon last year looks to be working ok
class wise its a wash.may have to stalk and then try to get involved late..
like the post..cant eat the t pleach chalk...

blackthroatedwind 05-22-2008 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Absolutely. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place finishers are a combined 0 for 5. That's about as live as a race can get. Did something actually win back out of that race?


I hope you're just being a wiseguy and that's not how YOU judge the quality of a race....any race. It actually is a live race ( and not because a distant finisher has won twice since ).

blackthroatedwind 05-22-2008 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
its a nice race ...unspoken vow ran ok at mon last year looks to be working ok
class wise its a wash.may have to stalk and then try to get involved late..
like the post..cant eat the t pleach chalk...


Unspoken Vow?

We have different past performances.

the_fat_man 05-22-2008 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I hope you're just being a wiseguy and that's not how YOU judge the quality of a race....any race. It actually is a live race ( and not because a distant finisher has won twice since ).

So, one of the ways I'd consider the quality of a race wouldn't be in terms of how the horses in it ran back? Wouldn't that be a qualitative counterpart to the number? Especially since the horse that drew off on the turn in that race and had a clear lead turning for home has proven to be a quitter ---even going six.

the_fat_man 05-22-2008 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Bobby, you were asking yesterday and even a few days ago why no one talks about races and why you were getting a hard time. Your post is why you get a hard time. It's a 7 horse field, you mentioned 5 of them and really gave no real opinion. Of the 5 you mentioned, who do you like? I'm all for talking about more races and stuff, but it really helps if people actually have a real opinion and discuss it, instead of just mentioning nearly the entire field.

I'll take Fischer off IGGY next time there's a MATCH RACE and I need to narrow down the contenders to ONLY 2. Oh wait; that would probably be much too difficult for him and he'd need to enlist the aid of his equally discerning buddy Keilan.

ArlJim78 05-22-2008 10:06 AM

1) A Rose For You
2) Song Of Love
3) Better Again

I'm thinking Charming is not ready for this kind of race and I have my doubts about Music Note as well.

i agree that this is a real nice field for n1x on a thursday.

Bobby Fischer 05-22-2008 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Unspoken Vow?

We have different past performances.

Hopefully Unspoken Vow doesn't break in badly Again.

the_fat_man 05-22-2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
1) A Rose For You

I looked at the replay in the hope that Garcia might've been impatient with her; but he wasn't. He just sat behind the duelers and essentially inherited the lead. Then, she appeared lost in the stretch as to what she was supposed to do. While the duelers ran last and next to last, it's hard to say for sure whether she got a perfect trip or was compromised by being close early. And, should she find herself in the lead close to the wire again today, she might just know how to finish.

Tough race with no real value.

Bobby Fischer 05-22-2008 12:53 PM

They said Music Note got sick in Quarantine and never went to Dubai.

Charming looks less built like a sprinter in the paddock , then on the kenne rplay.

ateamstupid 05-22-2008 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
They said Music Note got sick in Quarantine and never went to Dubai.

Charming looks less built like a sprinter in the paddock , then on the kenne rplay.

I still think Charming's a play-against at 2-1. She might be the real deal, but her debut win was eh.

tiggerv 05-22-2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I still think Charming's a play-against at 2-1. She might be the real deal, but her debut win was eh.

I still think she is the most likely winner but 2-1 is no bargain. Song of Love at 9-2 is the value if the odds don't move.


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