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Danzig 05-14-2008 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by XIIPointStables
He's done enough...

so has this phrase!;)

blackthroatedwind 05-14-2008 11:13 PM

I actually found the post where I brought that to the board.

It's really a quote from the Sheik on why he retired Lamtarra after four starts and didn't bring him here for the BC. I kid you not.

Danzig 05-15-2008 06:31 AM

i remember that. so, the announcement is today-anyone think it's a farm other than darley? i found it interesting that darley was mentioned when iavarone was talking about the two week long purchase of big brown.

Linny 05-15-2008 06:37 AM

Rumor still has it that it's NOT Darley.

Darley buys horses and doesn't allow partners so if IEAH (or even Pompa for that matter, I guess) wish to maintain some level of interest, Darley is not their farm. IEAH has a small (about 12, I'm told) band of mares so I guess that they may want to hold an interest.

Danzig 05-15-2008 07:08 AM

if not them, then you'd next move to three chimneys, lane's end, or maybe claiborne-since they're the ones who stood boundary. guess we'll know by days' end.

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2008 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Linny
Rumor still has it that it's NOT Darley.

Darley buys horses and doesn't allow partners so if IEAH (or even Pompa for that matter, I guess) wish to maintain some level of interest, Darley is not their farm. IEAH has a small (about 12, I'm told) band of mares so I guess that they may want to hold an interest.


It's not Darley. But I'm only allowed to say it on one message board and I already used up my allotment.;)

KY_Sasquash 05-15-2008 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Linny
Rumor still has it that it's NOT Darley.

Darley buys horses and doesn't allow partners so if IEAH (or even Pompa for that matter, I guess) wish to maintain some level of interest, Darley is not their farm. IEAH has a small (about 12, I'm told) band of mares so I guess that they may want to hold an interest.


Darley doesnt own all of Any Given Saturday. While they prefer not to have partners on stallions, they'll make a few exceptions and that depends on who the potential partners are.

XIIPointStables 05-15-2008 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
so has this phrase!;)

I still like it. It fits well in this racing age of "breeding first, racing second."

fpsoxfan 05-15-2008 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
I'll be shocked if he makes it to the Belmont.

Get ready to pay up. :)

freddymo 05-15-2008 10:00 AM

I actually hope he goes to Claiborne. I wonder if such a classy operation would deal with such swine. Business is business and keeping Danzig in the breed couldn't be a bad thing.
Three Chimneys hasn't been running to hot lately..I don't see them as a likely home but what the f do I know.

SentToStud 05-15-2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
I actually hope he goes to Claiborne. I wonder if such a classy operation would deal with such swine. Business is business and keeping Danzig in the breed couldn't be a bad thing.
Three Chimneys hasn't been running to hot lately..I don't see them as a likely home but what the f do I know.

What makes them swine? They turned $3 million into $30 million in less than a year. Does this make them bad guys? Or do you hate them for Dutrow and/or Greg Martin?

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
I actually hope he goes to Claiborne. I wonder if such a classy operation would deal with such swine. Business is business and keeping Danzig in the breed couldn't be a bad thing.
Three Chimneys hasn't been running to hot lately..I don't see them as a likely home but what the f do I know.


I see you're keeping your hot streak going.

johnny pinwheel 05-15-2008 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv
Where can I wager on BB not racing again after the Belmont?

jeez i love betting 1-9 shots, please!

freddymo 05-15-2008 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
What makes them swine? They turned $3 million into $30 million in less than a year. Does this make them bad guys? Or do you hate them for Dutrow and/or Greg Martin?

Have a heart... Nobody has respect for success more then I but I have no use for cheats.. I have my share of vices cheating isn't one I ever thought was acceptable.

He is a very nice horse that could serve our sport well.. I just wish the silks were Claiborne and he was going home to be managed in a reasonable and responsible way after his limited 4 year old career.

Clearly terms like in the sports best interest and a well managed prudent stud career arent important to the chop house that is IEAH.. I assume whomever has the most dough on the table can get the horse to do whatever they need to do to recoup the investment. Horse people used to respect the industry that they made there money from. Nowadays its only important to earn once you have struck oil.

freddymo 05-15-2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I see you're keeping your hot streak going.

I have a lot of time on my hands

CSC 05-15-2008 12:14 PM

I don't see why breeders would rush out to breed to him considering Curlin will enter stud duty next year. Curlin to me has a much more attractive pedigree who has proven a heck of alot more in my eyes. Aren't these guys rushing the gun ya think?

Danzig 05-15-2008 12:29 PM

it's not as tho curlin can cover every mare out there. big brown will get his share...
also depends on what you're looking for out of a horse, and what you've got as far as mare, as to who you'd use for a stud.

parsixfarms 05-15-2008 12:58 PM

Does it strike anyone as odd that today is the day that they are announcing the stud deal? I know that the Wall Street guys want to "sell high," but if you had supreme confidence in the horse and his ability to win the Triple Crown, wouldn't you wait until after the Belmont until you finalized the stud deal? All he can do now is devalue himself (see Majestic Warrior and War Pass).

cakes44 05-15-2008 01:34 PM

I know very little about the breeding business,I can't think of too many reasons why someone would send a mare to Big Brown over Hard Spun while both are unknowns.

Linny 05-15-2008 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms
Does it strike anyone as odd that today is the day that they are announcing the stud deal? I know that the Wall Street guys want to "sell high," but if you had supreme confidence in the horse and his ability to win the Triple Crown, wouldn't you wait until after the Belmont until you finalized the stud deal? All he can do now is devalue himself (see Majestic Warrior and War Pass).

Maybe they think he wont ever be worth more that he is right now.


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