Yeah, like I said previously, in the mid 90's he seemed to have figured things out and became a much better jockey. There was a span of two or three years around then where it seemed like he couldn't get beat.

Prior to that though....

Toushe'

But really I could care less.

That's interesting.

I could think of a few on here that might be placed higher, but I'd like to know what in my posts makes you think I should head that list.

yeah, perhaps 20 years has clouded my memory and i could stand to watch the race between ferd and sheba again.

however, there really were far too many times mccarron waited and waited and waited.

his ride on sheba in the belmont was very typical of his thinking. i'm not saying sheba would have beaten bet twice that day, but taking him that far back in a race where speed rules (despite the distance) was typical of his poor tactical thinking. sheba was a much faster horse than generally recognized (by fast i mean he had very nice tactical speed) and if he had been more forwardly placed, the race could easily have come out differently.

Yeah, I'm generally a fairly bitter person, but that has nothing to do with this.

I'm someone who went to the track on average about five times a week from 1985 to the late 90's, and believe me, for most of that time, people in socal who were track regulars did not respect him as a rider. At least until the mid 90's anyways.

Your memory is very clouded.

Go do some more spaghetti!

My point being, as you know already, that had he been used more intelligently in the race, he'd have gotten second instead of fourth, and there is no doubt he'd have finished much closer to Bet Twice than he did.

All a s s kissers as I recall ( Pat was kissing his own with his head always near.)

McCarron would put your horse in the position to win and it was up to the trainer to have him fit enough to finish.

Cashed alot of tickets with Chris in the saddle.

I would like to add that anybody that takes delight in someone being hurt has a serious mental flaw. I was at the track the day Chris fall and got trampled, He was riding Encoded down in on the rail and his horse went down nearing the 3/8 pole. He was lucky to survive.

Rough day on this board for Whittingham I guess.

Dude is getting accused of juicing legends and cheering jockey injuries in seperate threads.

First of all is Vic Stauffer the true Vic Stauffer here?
Secondly haven't we decided that jockies are overrated anyway?
Thirdly while Mccarron was hardly a slug of a Jockey, he did happen to give one of the worst rides in Preakness history on Touch Gold, though TG did stumble at the break, it was a nightmarish trip beyond belief or certainly of a jockey of Mccarron's stature.

Now you've got me wondering.

I was always a fan of the "straight and strong" signature. Every announcer has to have an unique thing that distinguishes themselves. That one works for me.

For real...

Has to be living in the middle of bum**** Maine that gets to him....

I live in South Western Maine, less than a mile from the New Hampshire state line about an hour and a half from Boston. I'm not that much stuck in the sticks.

What gets to me are people who think they are cute that try to put words into my mouth.

I was going to say 'idiots' at first instead.

Charlie do you ever get to Rockingham or Belmont

No to both, but Rockingham might be doable. I'd be interested in going there.

I may hook up with my friend from Joisey, and perhaps Druggie, at toga.

Why? Do you go to Rockingham?

Yes.

My girlfriend is in Grad school in MA, and whenever I visit I spend my days at Rockingham. She lives in MA, but a couple miles from the NH boarder. Rockingham is about 10 minutes from her house.

I cant say much for the way Rockingham treats a player, but I do like the atmosphere.

That seems quite oxymoronic. If he was so bad and such a pain...how on earth and why on earth would people that couldn't stand him put him on great animals???