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Hwjb 02-19-2008 05:31 AM

Kev, it's difficult to be sure about Neptune's rating because it depends on whether you take the view that Naunton Brook ran to his rating or not. We have Naunton running 6lb below his best on the basis that the race wasn't a stiff enough test for him, that puts Neptune on 165. But you could easily argue that Neptune deserves to be as high as 171.

Kauto Star 184
Denman 178p
Exotic Dancer 175
The Listener 168
Racing Demon 166
Neptune Collonges 165
Halcon Genelardais 165

So given that our view of Neptune is a low one, and that there are obvious doubts about The Listener, Racing Demon and Halcon Genelardais giving their running even if they turn up, then I would say that NC is a pretty attractive each-way bet, even though you are relying on one of the three with the clear best form either not running, completing or running no sort of race.

my miss storm cat 02-26-2008 12:32 PM

Exotic Dancer is out.

NoChanceToDance 02-27-2008 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Exotic Dancer is out.

You sure?

I heard his participation was in doubt, but without looking I haven't heard that he's completely ruled out.

If that is the case, it's a great shame.

my miss storm cat 02-27-2008 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
You sure?

I heard his participation was in doubt, but without looking I haven't heard that he's completely ruled out.

If that is the case, it's a great shame.

I had read it on some link on Equidaily yesterday and apologize as I just read this on SL.....

Confused now.

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/n...NG_Dancer.html

_PAPA_ 02-28-2008 12:54 PM

remember me?

Anyways.


I am in the Denman camp. Kauto is a great horse, Denman is a superstar.

my miss storm cat 02-28-2008 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _PAPA_
remember me?

Anyways.


I am in the Denman camp. Kauto is a great horse, Denman is a superstar.

Ummmm, no.

Oh God you're not that Terminator guy, are you?

my miss storm cat 02-28-2008 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _PAPA_
remember me?

Anyways.


I am in the Denman camp. Kauto is a great horse, Denman is a superstar.

Oh is it really YOU? :)

Something of yours I just read.....

I wonder.

_PAPA_ 02-29-2008 07:21 AM

lol.. I will probably only be familiar to a few of the brits like.

Kev and Harry B.

my miss storm cat 02-29-2008 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _PAPA_
lol.. I will probably only be familiar to a few of the brits like.

Kev and Harry B.

Some of us have lurked on other forums.....

my miss storm cat 03-01-2008 09:55 AM

RP, no author.....

EXOTIC DANCER sparkled in a crucial gallop this morning and remains on target for the Totesport Cheltenham Gold Cup.

The Jonjo O'Neill-trained eight-year-old, ridden by Tony McCoy, worked up the grass gallops at Jackdaws Castle with stablemates Don't Push It and Mountain.

The work was watched by owner Sir Robert Ogden's racing manager Barry Simpson, who said: "The horse has gone up the gallops and seems to be enjoying himself. He will keep to his normal routine and, if we get a good run through and there are no reactions, he will take his place in the Gold Cup line-up."

NoChanceToDance 03-02-2008 06:57 AM

It's nearly time for the festival, and I have no idea what is supposed to be running in many of the races, sad, isn't it. I feel like I've been shut off from the outside world.

No major fancies for me this year, and this will probably be the first festival in a long time where I won't have a bet!! :eek:

Pedigree Ann 03-11-2008 06:58 AM

Denman or Kauto Star?
 
Or, Ginger or Mary Anne? (alphabetical order both times, one must be impartial).

Will the champ hold off the challenger? Will they come to the last head-to-head and fight up the hill like we all want to see? Discuss.


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