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perhaps it's itellectual laziness....or perhaps i don't feel the need to argue about it point by point on an internet message board. I'm not our gal KYRIM.

I don't consider myself the most informed person on the subject....I am however far from ignorant.

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

I agree that PETA goes way overbaord....but cock fighting is a cruel and disgusting "sport" and footage of famous athletes (whom children idolize) participating, even if only as spectators should not be taken lightly.

Regardless of where the cock fight took place, they are essentially condoning illegal behavior (in the country where they live and the country which pays their salaries). In the US it is banned in all states except Louisiana....however it goes on everywhere (I spoke with someone the other day who had spent the weekend at cockfights out in the boondocks here in KY).
Personally, while I think that they did nothing truly wrong (as it is legal where they attended the fights)...they set a horrible example for those who might seek to emulate them.

from the IDA (in defense of animals) website (peta's slightly less crazy cousin)
Isn’t cockfighting a cultural tradition?
While cockfighting may be a tradition in some cultures, not all traditions are good ones that deserve to continue. Cesar Chavez, who condemned the practice of cockfighting, once wrote: “Kindness and compassion toward all living things is a mark of a civilized society. Conversely, cruelty, whether it is directed against human beings or against animals, is not the exclusive province of any one culture or community of people.” In a statewide survey conducted in Arizona in 1997, 95% of Hispanic voters said they felt that cockfighting was “cruel and inhumane.” While only 34% of Anglo respondents disagreed that “cockfighting is an important part of Hispanic culture,” 70% of Hispanics disagreed with the statement.

they voted last year to ban the sport. it's illegal nationwide.

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

Every time I hear the term PETA, I see the image of that Swedish singer who appeared on some awards show about 10 years ago with a goose around her neck.

bjork (icelandic singer) in a swan dress at the 2001 oscar's is the closest i can come to this.

icelander's are a murderous culture known for their "fishing" tradition.

they are almost as bad as the horrible cheese eating dutch.

oh, how i hate foreigners.

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Originally Posted by Cardus

Sometimes -- and this is a case of it -- the "it's all relative" argument is intellectual laziness.

I can see the qualitative difference between the culture of a nation that bans these activities and the culture of a nation that legalizes and regulates it. To me, it's clear.

When it comes to animal rights though it truly is all relative.

I look at the person who goes out and hunts for sport and can't see how they can call themselves animal lovers and then condemn other people going to dogfights.

Yet I am sure there are vegetarians out there that would be appalled that I would condemn hunters and call myself an animal lover yet I eat meat from slaughtered animals.

And I'm sure there are people that go to dog fights or cock fights and yet they would truly consider themselves animal lovers.

In the case of animal rights it really isn't intellectually lazy to say that "it's all relative" cause it is.