It's over..
 

The New York Racing Association will run racing for the next 25 years under legislation approved February 13 that provides hundreds of millions of dollars in direct aid and loan forgiveness to NYRA and new oversight abilities by the state. The legislation, which stalled for several hours in the Senate due to back-room jockeying on unrelated issues, was approved 92 to 40 in the Assembly and 39 to 17 in the Senate.

Precious/B-H:
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=43626

Sad day in New York racing in my opinion. Writing off $120 million in bad debt-laughable. I am sure the people in New York who do not care about racing really appreciate their tax dollars being forgiven. And addition $105 million in direct aid. For a grand total of $205 million--this is hilarious. How on earth can you have confidence in a group who needs $225 million in order to operate.

“I don’t think we’ll be bailing them out anymore," said Assemblyman Gary Pretlow, chairman of the Assembly racing committee. This might be the most hilarious statement I have read in a really long time. I would wager my house that the NYRA will be back to the state in 5 years asking for money. The peple running NYRA have no clue what they are doing when it comes to a successful business model.

Are you talking about your math?

I know you only post to incite, as even you can't possibly be as stupid and uninformed as your posts indicate, but could you please start posting a warning on your posts that reading them might cause an excessive loss of brain cells.

Thanks I fixed it. This is what happens to people when they work for the NYRA or read about their abilities.

You don't have worry so much about New Yorkers and their tax dollars. You obviously didn't bother reading the legislation so you missed the part where the VLT operator will be paying the state that $105 million.

The state, former Gov. Pataki and Lottery Division head Jeff Perle should all just consider themselves lucky that NYRA did not push the conspiracy lawsuit they had lined up. Because they had a case...

Nice for the Moderator/Owner of the forum to insult his posters.

I have a question. Since NYRA no longer has a claim to the land, who gets the proceeds from the sale of the property at the Big A. It was in the NYRA Disclosure report issued last Novemeber. NYRA showed a gain of $15M from the sale of the land at the Big A. With this gain NYRA showed a projection for 2008 of a break even year. Without this gain NYRA's projections would now show a loss, of $15M. Nice start to a company coming out of Chapter 11.
Good luck to the residents of NY state when the 2nd bailout is needed.

Where is the insult?

That poster likes to start off his posts with an inaccuracy in an attempt to draw attention away from the rest of his BS.

Suddenly has an edit note on it that wasnt there earlier.

It was something about his intelligence.

I see no insult at all. I'd like to thank the NYRA for the anticipated VLT revenue flow that will help their brothers in Harness Racing. Especially Tioga Downs and Vernon Downs. Many jobs were saved and those local areas are thankful.

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People earn respect....and sometimes they earn disrespect.

If you don't approve of how Steve treats his guests here then feel free to pay for you own site.

why should he treat you any better or worse than us..steve holds back alot ..if he were to censor this site by his true feelings many of us would be gone.. i give him all the credit for NOT takeing things to hart and letting the people on here have a an opinion....

time till my banning...3 2 1 ..:eek:

No it wasn't. It was a rejoinder in the same vein that the NYRA discussion involving Whodey has had all along and simply challenged his knowledge of the full content in the debate. And minutes later when I was unhappy that I had written it, I yanked it.

It's pretty rare that I throw a haymaker around here.. And if I do I invariably think better of it.

Not trying to incite anything. I am voicing my opinion. I do not believe in gov't bailouts at all. If this new business model is such a great idea then why not just suspend the payments on the loan? Why do they have to forgive the $120 million. I also do not believe that the NYRA should be a not-for-profit entity. Red Cross, Salvation Army and charaties like those should be the only NFP--not a horse racing industry. I also would like to see the NYRA be more creative in cost cutting measures and money management. Time will tell---but in 5 years I predict they (NYRA) will be out of cash once again.

What about the $120 million that was forgiven?

What you are, among other things, is selective. You aren't viewing the entire picture, but instead choosing a very small piece, one that you don't understand at all, and harping on it to draw attention to yourself.

Without detailing the tax dollars that NYRA has brought to the State in the past, and explaining legislative hinderances that have encumbered NYRA while also detailing how other States ( like Kentucky for instance ) have aided the Thoroughbred industry through tax breaks, you are only telling a very small part of the story.

You also choose to completely ignore, as Steve alluded to, that NYRA was prevented from having slot machines by the very government that granted them to every other racetrack in the State. Had they been treated in the same manner, by the government, as all these other establishments, not only would these monies not be necessary, but the State of NY would have realized a great deal of other tax revenues. I don't hear you crying for the citizens of NY that were denied these dollars by the very government that you confusedly believe is handing out money to NYRA that you ignorantly compare to the Red Cross and Salvation Army.

Beyond this, you are making the usual simple minded mistake of lumping every leadership of NYRA together......as though the main people in charge today are the same as the different stewards NYRA has had in the past. This is a complete perversion of the truth. The existance of racing in NY State is of the utmost importance to the entire industry that many of us love and rely on for our livelihood. I defy you to tell me, specifically, which people you believe should be running racing in NY other than Steve Duncker and Charlie Hayward.

Would you not agree that it's a small price for the three pieces of real estate in Queens, Nassau County and Saratoga that NYRA turned over to the state yesterday?

As I wrote in an unpublished piece a few days ago, it's the best real estate deal the state of New York has engaged in since Peter Minuit bought Manhattan.

Being banned isn't so bad

Sincerely,

BannedMO