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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

setting the absurd time aside (how about that half in 42 and change?), that is one hell of a nice sprinter!

gonna be hard to beat come bc sprint time, provided he's still alive.

you don't honestly believe this, do you?

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I have zero problem calling a track speed-biased when I see it taking place.I look at that 3rd race..o.k.,and I see 50k claiming 3 year old fillies going pretty fast for 4 furlongs.That's simply(to me) not as important(the time) as how far back the raters in the race are.Fact is(even though the time says they scorched up front) the 2 raters are not overly far back.They have decent position going into the turn of that sprint.Matter of fact,one of those raters got up late for a deadheat.If you want to see who the track is favoring,look to see where raters are in the middle of sprint races.If it's speed-biased,they will be pretty badly out of position going into the turn.Instead of 5-7 lengths off, they will be like 10-12 lengths off.Cushion track produces fast times.It's odd,sure,but what matters is whether it's biased,or whether horses are safe running on it.50k claiming 3 year old fillies ran what? 108.38? on the old dirt track it would have been about 109 4/5-1:10.So,add about that much to the horse who ran the wicked 106 n' change.It would equate to about 1:08 in change.He is very fast.The guy doesn't have many horses.So,good for him.

You bring up an important point - a fast track does not automatically have to be a speed-favoring track . . .

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

you don't honestly believe this, do you?

I see it as unlikely that he stays sound that long dude, but I said the exact same thing last year for a newly turned 3yo coming out of the exact same race, and he ran second in the bc sprint a few months ago.

Ok, perhaps the way I said it was a bit strong, but if this one stays sound, I see him as one of the top 3 sprinters around come BC time.

He does seem to like the SA cushion track too, which is where the BC is at. Of course, who knows what the track will be like once they modify it.

I actually forgot they were running at SA, so you make a good point.

There's a first time for everything.

Two back, he ran 0.73 seconds faster than the Grade 1 Malibu Stakes for older horses on the same card.

Normally, it would be a tremendous achievement for a 2yo Cal Bred sprinter to run open lengths faster than older Grade 1 males on the same card - however, this years Malibu field was overflowing with vomit.