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Riot 01-24-2008 07:12 PM

Steve or BTW ... anybody know who to contact in NY gov offices to register objection?

blackthroatedwind 01-24-2008 07:17 PM

I don't know, feels like there are quite a lot of far sicker things out there. It's art....whether we like it or not. It's opportunistic....which seems to be what this artist excels at.

The City also shouldn't allow a memorial for a stricken animal in Central Park to be used in this manner and tying Barbaro to it makes little or no genuine sense. The people behind this are stealing this opportunity in a manner that simply shouldn't be permitted by the City of New York.

Riot 01-24-2008 07:27 PM

It's a political statement tied to Barbaroslaw - questionable in my mind about permanent installation in the park.

Wonder who are this gallery's best patrons? If any are NY racing people?

Cannon Shell 01-24-2008 07:31 PM

One of the reasons that the Arts get less support than they used to is that people (like me) fear that their money will go to radical causes and artists like this one.

deltagulf 01-24-2008 07:36 PM

its art alright. but very poor taste to let it take place in the park.

Riot 01-24-2008 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
One of the reasons that the Arts get less support than they used to is that people (like me) fear that their money will go to radical causes and artists like this one.

I fully support an artists freedom to offend me in public.

I don't like when a hard-copy, permanent representation of political actions being brought before Congress is placed on government property under the excuse of "public art", however.

More to this than just a statue I find offensive, for me. It's what is behind the statue (the political agenda of the gallery owner, barbaroslaw)

Riot 01-24-2008 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
"It was reported that in the end, Barbaro was biting at people before he was finally allowed to die with dignity."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he a 'bitey' type of horse anyway? It is ridiculous how people get this stuff turned around.

I think the most important part of that sentence is the highlighted - that spin is pure, anti-horseracing, Animal Rights propaganda.

my miss storm cat 01-24-2008 08:11 PM

http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...080/1002/rss04

Excerpt.....

A spokeswoman for the New York City Department of Parks & Recreation said it has not received an application for a special event permit or a temporary public art permit allowing the unveiling.

* * *

I wonder if there's a chance it'll be denied... (?).

No idea how such things work.

blackthroatedwind 01-24-2008 08:52 PM

You mean they weren't telling the truth....and it isn't scheduled to be unveiled on April 30th?

Zaf 01-24-2008 09:03 PM

Poor Taste , I'm sickened :(

my miss storm cat 01-24-2008 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You mean they weren't telling the truth....and it isn't scheduled to be unveiled on April 30th?

No, I just thought it was interesting that no application had been filed.

Thought maybe there was some loophole where they could be stopped but i checked here.....

http://www.nycgovparks.org/sub_thing...uidelines.html

Any PR is good PR but maybe a silent email-a-thon to the Commissioner, Dept. of Parks and Recreation?

I'm just thinking out loud.

Just incase.....

http://nyc.gov/html/mail/html/maildpr.html

Oh, and i do applaud you for your eloquent comments..... had to (finally) say that.

Coach Pants 01-24-2008 09:45 PM

I think the memorial might bring new fans to the game. I have no problem with it.

The Indomitable DrugS 01-24-2008 09:54 PM

Maybe it's just me - but the overwhelming majority of these so called great "pieces of art" are things that if left in my possession to keep - I would donate to the nearest garbage dump ASAP.

Of course, I only make that statement if the stuff was given to me and I wasn't under the assumption it was worth anything.

If someone gave me the Mona Lisa - I think the following would occur with my thought process when I first look at it....

* I wonder what she would have looked like without clothes about 5 years earlier.

* I wonder is she was an ego maniac, and paid someone to do that picture for her - or if some sad lonesome artist tried to score some pu tang by painting her a pic of herself.

* Crinkle, trash can.

The Indomitable DrugS 01-24-2008 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALostTexan
Unbelievable. One of the sickest things I have seen.

Why?, because he used the name Barbaro in his exhibit? If it was called 'a procrastinators merry-go-round' would you be offended?

To my untrained eye, it looked like someone got a start on making a Merry-Go-Round, but got bored and quit after just having the basic structure of two horses finished.

Much ado about nothing.

GenuineRisk 01-24-2008 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

This was my favorite of the comments leftatthegate quoted:

<<The sculpture is just horrible, why in God’s name would put a horse on is back. Our horese are worrier’s and proud animals. Barbaro should never be on his back, proud and upright is were he should be. Maybe you should rethink this.>>

"Our horese are worrier's." Awesome.

miraja2 01-24-2008 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Why?, because he used the name Barbaro in his exhibit? If it was called 'a procrastinators merry-go-round' would you be offended?

To my untrained eye, it looked like someone got a start on making a Merry-Go-Round, but got bored and quit after just having the basic structure of two horses finished.

Much ado about nothing.

This really made me laugh.

sumitas 01-24-2008 11:37 PM

The "artist" is one pathetic waste of oxygen.

brianwspencer 01-25-2008 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
It's no chocolate Jesus; that's for sure.

I don't like it, but then again I am all for people being able to do whatever they want with their art -- whether it be chocolate Jesus, pubic hair embedded in soap, or whatever else they can dream up, it'd be silly of me to champion their right to offend anyone else and then get mad over this.

golfer 01-25-2008 05:49 AM

I think in situations like this, even registering complaints just gives the art and the artist more exposure, which is what they want to begin with. It might be better to just ignore. In fact, if it wasn't for this thread, how many of us would have seen or heard about this piece of "art"?

fpsoxfan 01-25-2008 05:57 AM

I wonder if more people would be upset if they did a "Heath Ledger laying face down naked surrounded by pills sculpture" It would be in about the same taste.


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