Wow that was fast.
At least she looked solid doing it.

Thank God you weren't a golfing buddy of Tim Smith.

And, frankly, thank God racing is a lot more subtle than that.

No record is legit on that track right now. Personally, I was underwhelmed by her performance. Gomez had to all but drag her across the wire that final furlong.

This is apples and oranges of course but the filly from that card that we should be talking about is Zenyatta. There is a potential monster.

You completely missed the, intended I'm sure, irony.....


This person is happy that, according to her, she is trained by someone willing to take a shot in the KY Derby with Indian Blessing while castigating Mr. Baffert for supposedly breaking down horses.

Kidding aside, for only a minute ( I promise ), why is Zenyatta more worthy of conversation than Indian Blessing? I mean, don't get me wrong, Zenyatta was a thing of beauty yesterday, but Indian Blessing is an undefeated winner of the BC Juvenile Fillies who, unlike Zenyatta, has also taken her game on the road ( winning on four different racetracks ) and, more importantly, has won on two different surfaces.

Zenyatta is exciting....but so is Indian Blessing....and the latter has accomplished far more.

I think she's got a legitimate shot to enter The Hambletonian and win it.

Fair enough. They are both obviously worthy of discussion and Indian Blessing of course is the much more accomplished horse. Perhaps it is because Zenyatta was much more visually impressive yesterday that I brought her up. Both have very bright futures.

king is the one who made the point that baffert will take a shot with her, cowgirl was quoting his statement, while showing she disagreed.

You are using way too much logic, for this sport.

Thank you.

Got a 91 Beyer, per Illman.

oh, sorry.

as for the rep certain trainers get, i'm not sure how much is based on fact, and how much on perception-or how much is due to dislike of the trainer.

Baffert does break down a large number of horses. You never hear too much about them cuz for the most part they happen during training hours (What A Song, Cavonnier, and Inexcessivelygood are the only "high profile" ones I can think of).

In 2002, Baffert finished 1-2-3-4-6 in the Del Mar Futurity with Icecoldbeeratreds, Kafwain, Chief Planner, Friendly Mike, and Bull Market. By May 15 the following year, the winner was dead, the 2nd thru 4th were laid up/retired with suspensory injuries, and Bull Market had knee surgery from which he never truly recovered. Not to mention his best juvenile that year, Vindication, was toast (another suspensory) by the following March.

I know a guy that exercised horses for Baffert for a few years and they stories he would tell me about what a waste it was for owners to send their horses to him because so many really, really nice horses that had either a lot of potential or were proven to be a stake horse only to have them break down because of the unneccesary way of having them breeze so fast just about every time they went out.. What is the reason besides a good tightner every so often to have a horse time after time work in 1:10 or 58 etc.? I mean if ya know you have a good one, why risk the injuries that come along with all those too fast works? Do we see other trainers like Pletcher, or Sherrifs, or Drysdale breezing their horses that way? How many good 4 or 5 yr olds does Baffert have? He gets a few good 2 yr olds that somehow stand up to it however they do, then by the time the Triple Crown trail is finished most likey so are they.
Of course Baffert only has over 100+ horses in training so whats a few good ones falling thru the cracks right? They'll send him more just because he is Bob Baffert.
I love the sport an of course have loved some of the horses that have made it thru his barn over the years. Sometimes I just wished they were in someone elses hands so we could see them longer or if even at all.