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whodey17 12-13-2007 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I agree with your first sentence. I dont with the second. They gave up some fringe players. There are no studs in the gruop. Scott is 30 and is at best a 4th outfielder type. Albers is very average. Troy may be the only one with star potential and that is a stretch. The Orioles didn't get anywhere near the top prospects the Marlins did (not that Tejada is worth it)

None of these guys are a top 100 prospect

I see your point, but it is not like Tejada has any upswing at this point in his career. Troy Patton and Matt Albers were going to compete for a starting spot. I cannot see giving up two pitchers with starting potential for a 31 year old shortstop. I know the Astros have trouble scoring runs, but who on earth is going to pitch for them. They have no one after Oswalt. Pitcing and defense wins world series and I think Everett is a better defensive shortstop that Tejada and now they have worsen their pitching staff. The move doesn't make sense to me.

declansharbor 12-13-2007 06:17 PM

As fast as he was run out of here, Ed Wade can't outrun the nimbus clouds that stay above him. I'd actually feel sorry for him if he didn't have that money tree in his backyard. He'll make just enough moves to give people an inkling that his heart is still beating. Only problem is, the moves will NEVER be enough to bring a winner home.
Signed by someone who's been burnt by him for some time now. Not that burnt, lol...

Cannon Shell 12-13-2007 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by whodey17
I see your point, but it is not like Tejada has any upswing at this point in his career. Troy Patton and Matt Albers were going to compete for a starting spot. I cannot see giving up two pitchers with starting potential for a 31 year old shortstop. I know the Astros have trouble scoring runs, but who on earth is going to pitch for them. They have no one after Oswalt. Pitcing and defense wins world series and I think Everett is a better defensive shortstop that Tejada and now they have worsen their pitching staff. The move doesn't make sense to me.

Albers is a below average pitcher and Patton is a double A prospect who is only a fair prospect and has a history of arm trouble. This is a good trade for Houston. They gave up a bunch of guys who aren't major league regulars and got a power hitting SS who fits the home park to a tee. If they were relying on Albers and Patton being in the rotation they were doomed anyway because those guys aren't very good.

whodey17 12-13-2007 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Albers is a below average pitcher and Patton is a double A prospect who is only a fair prospect and has a history of arm trouble. This is a good trade for Houston. They gave up a bunch of guys who aren't major league regulars and got a power hitting SS who fits the home park to a tee. If they were relying on Albers and Patton being in the rotation they were doomed anyway because those guys aren't very good.

They arent very good. But I think they are a better option than a shortstop who is 31 and on the decline. I would be very surprised to see Tejada hit more than 35 hr's this year. Be interesting to see what happens in a couple of years. In my opinion, give up those 5 guys for a mediocre pitcher instead of Tejada.

SniperSB23 12-13-2007 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by whodey17
They arent very good. But I think they are a better option than a shortstop who is 31 and on the decline. I would be very surprised to see Tejada hit more than 35 hr's this year. Be interesting to see what happens in a couple of years. In my opinion, give up those 5 guys for a mediocre pitcher instead of Tejada.

More than 35? If he hits more than 35 then this trade is an absolute steal. If he hits .300 with 20 HRs and 90 RBIs the trade will work out just fine. The only thing I'd be worried about if I was the Astros is if his body wears down and he spends most of the season on the DL.

Cannon Shell 12-13-2007 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
More than 35? If he hits more than 35 then this trade is an absolute steal. If he hits .300 with 20 HRs and 90 RBIs the trade will work out just fine. The only thing I'd be worried about if I was the Astros is if his body wears down and he spends most of the season on the DL.

If he does nothing they dont lose much becase they gave up no impact guys. I can see him hitting .285 28HR 95 RBI's in Minute Maid. Plus he gets to play in Miller Park, Wrigley and Great American a lot. Not to mention that going to the NL should negate the loss of the juice.

Cannon Shell 12-13-2007 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by whodey17
They arent very good. But I think they are a better option than a shortstop who is 31 and on the decline. I would be very surprised to see Tejada hit more than 35 hr's this year. Be interesting to see what happens in a couple of years. In my opinion, give up those 5 guys for a mediocre pitcher instead of Tejada.

Tejada is worth a whole lot more than a mediocre pitcher. They already have a bunch of them.

Mortimer 12-13-2007 09:52 PM

Is this trade for real?






Herbstreit got any poop on it?

Cannon Shell 12-13-2007 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Is this trade for real.






Herbstreit got any poop on it?

He only does Tigers and Indians rumors

Mortimer 12-13-2007 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He only does Tigers and Indians rumors



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