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trifecta124 12-01-2007 04:21 PM

I heard Minaya's interview on WFAN yesterday afternoon. He stated that both the A's and the Orioles had no interest in trading for Milledge. His value decreased after his sub par performance in the field. His attitude certainly didn't help either.

MaTH716 12-01-2007 06:12 PM

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What makes you think he will be an allstar? This guy aint Barry Bonds revisited. He strikes out alot, doesnt get on base much, has no baserunning skills, is an average fielder, has average power and seems to not exactly be fitting in with the team. If he was a 5th round draft choice and this trade was made no one would have noticed. His hype has not translated to production yet. They aren't trading a future Albert Pujols

He is only 22, granted he has alot of growing up to do. But next year he will be playing with a team that is more his age and with not the expectations that the Mets as a team will have and all of New York City has for Milledge himself . He played less than 60 games last year and I think he showed signs of being special. Granted his numbers aren't great but he only had 184 at bats last year, and the majority of them were in the 8 spot. Granted there is not a ton of protection in the Nats order, but you have to think that Manny Acta will have him out there every day. I don't think that they traded the next Pujols, but they should of got guys that are better than a catcher that has a lifetime .252 BA and an outfielder that is a question mark too, but 6 years older. Let's see what he does when he plays 140 games.

Cannon Shell 12-01-2007 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
He is only 22, granted he has alot of growing up to do. But next year he will be playing with a team that is more his age and with not the expectations that the Mets as a team will have and all of New York City has for Milledge himself . He played less than 60 games last year and I think he showed signs of being special. Granted his numbers aren't great but he only had 184 at bats last year, and the majority of them were in the 8 spot. Granted there is not a ton of protection in the Nats order, but you have to think that Manny Acta will have him out there every day. I don't think that they traded the next Pujols, but they should of got guys that are better than a catcher that has a lifetime .252 BA and an outfielder that is a question mark too, but 6 years older. Let's see what he does when he plays 140 games.

For a guy who batted in the 8 hole he only walked 12 times. Bad sign. Meaning he has no plate disipline or the pitchers thought he was someone who they could get out. Protection is only an issue with good hitters, no one is pitching around this guy right now. Catchers are not measured with batting average and Church had a pretty good year in a dreadful hitting park. You can bring this post back and rub it in my face next year but I can see him being a Carl Everett type who never lives up to his potential. Next year .264 .318 .422 16 Hrs 74 RBi's.

MaTH716 12-01-2007 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
For a guy who batted in the 8 hole he only walked 12 times. Bad sign. Meaning he has no plate disipline or the pitchers thought he was someone who they could get out. Protection is only an issue with good hitters, no one is pitching around this guy right now. Catchers are not measured with batting average and Church had a pretty good year in a dreadful hitting park. You can bring this post back and rub it in my face next year but I can see him being a Carl Everett type who never lives up to his potential. Next year .264 .318 .422 16 Hrs 74 RBi's.

I do not think that Rome will be built in a day with this guy. It might not be next year or even the year after, but I think the light will eventually go on. Hell he is still just a kid.

Cannon Shell 12-01-2007 06:54 PM

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I do not think that Rome will be built in a day with this guy. It might not be next year or even the year after, but I think the light will eventually go on. Hell he is still just a kid.

And I dont think the Mets can wait 2 or more years with a team that relies heavily on guys like Pedro, Alou, Delgado, Castillo,Wagner. They need to win now and I believe that Omar thinks these 2 guys give him a better chance. As a lefty, Church is a better fit for the team as it is currently constructed.

Cannon Shell 12-01-2007 06:54 PM

On another front did Delgado look like a cooked goose or what?

MaTH716 12-01-2007 06:58 PM

Aside from the pitch, he is major key/question.

Cannon Shell 12-01-2007 07:03 PM

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Aside from the pitch, he is major key/question.

His bat speed was really off. He just never got untracked all year. If he wasn't playing hurt he has slipped a lot quickly.

MaTH716 12-01-2007 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
His bat speed was really off. He just never got untracked all year. If he wasn't playing hurt he has slipped a lot quickly.

He will be 36 next season. There is alot riding on him and Alou (who I personally never liked, but he was unbelievable last year). Do they still have Shawn Green?

whodey17 12-01-2007 10:52 PM

What about Matsui to the Astros

Cannon Shell 12-02-2007 10:07 AM

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What about Matsui to the Astros

Lateral move. Houston cant contend with the team they have now.


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