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Cannon Shell 11-24-2007 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Ohio State has been the most consistent team.
But their loss at home against Illinois was a clean butt whipping.
Every team looks vulnerable... which is cool.

Actually Notre Dame has been the most consistent team...

The Bid 11-24-2007 09:53 PM

Thanks Cannon, hes a bad memory

Cannon Shell 11-24-2007 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Thanks Cannon, hes a bad memory

Once a Scum devil, always a scum devil...

satan's twin 11-24-2007 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
That would be Cooperesque


Just the mention of that dope's name is bringing my last turkey sandwich of the season back up. 2-11 v. michigan. May he rot in hell.

onebadbeast 11-24-2007 11:56 PM

sorry chuck, hawaii is not that good...

Bigsmc 11-25-2007 12:51 AM

From ESPN.com's UCLA-Oregon recap....

"It was over when... Dennis Dixon suffered a season-ending knee injury against ASU. Losing backup Ryan Leaf in the first quarter against UCLA didn't help. The Ducks never got on track."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=273280026

My 6 year old daughter could do a better job of proofreading....

horseofcourse 11-25-2007 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
And I have no doubt that Hawaii could beat either of these 2 teams...

You can't be serious...you're talking about a team that outside the island had to go to overtime to beat Louisiana Tech and San Jose State, and kick a last play 45 yard field goal to beat Nevada. They would not hold either Missouri or Kansas under 50 off the island.

Missouri is as good as anyone in the country. They rolled up 40 on an Illinois team OSU couldn't move the ball on. We'll see what happens next week. I think OU with Bradford is as good as anyone as well. That was a bad break when they lost him against T Tech.

You are badly, badly underrating those two teams that played last night. I was very impressed with both of them. It all came down to Kansas missing their field goals and turning the ball over and Missouri didn't miss theirs or turn it over. Either one of those teams would mutilate Ohio State. (Didn't you see OSU against the Florida spread last year?? either one could score as many ponts as they needed to score against them.) these teams aren't the big 10 crap offenses like MSU, PSU, Meat chicken, Wisconsin...they'd be playing....they didn't fare too well against the one spread like offense they did face in Illinois.

horseofcourse 11-25-2007 09:50 AM

(mangino not being in the championship game has upset me more than I thought it would!!)

The Bid 11-25-2007 10:10 AM

We will get to see Ohio State drill one of those 2 teams soon

pgardn 11-25-2007 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
We will get to see Ohio State drill one of those 2 teams soon

I know this is not a logical way to look at matchups but when its all you got... Missouri drilled the team that drilled Ohio State.

Ohio State may have unwittingly found a way to get to the BCS championship. Dont play any games at the end of the season. Boy it will be great to see Ohio State play in the BCS championship after sitting on the shelf for about two months.

The flippin bowls have to turn into a playoff system. This waiting around watching all these crap bowls is ridiculous. We have no idea what type of teams we will see. Only two months to prepare. Absurd.

pgardn 11-25-2007 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by onebadbeast
sorry chuck, hawaii is not that good...

Hawaii is Texas Tech playing with a huge homefield advantage in a bad conference.

horseofcourse 11-25-2007 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
We will get to see Ohio State drill one of those 2 teams soon

Ohio State will be playing West Virginia or USC either in the National Championship game or Rose Bowl. They have zero shot of playing Kansas or Missouri unless pigs sprout wings and Pitt beats West Virginia in Morgantown. That will certainly not happen.

horseofcourse 11-25-2007 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
I know this is not a logical way to look at matchups but when its all you got... Missouri drilled the team that drilled Ohio State.

Ohio State may have unwittingly found a way to get to the BCS championship. Dont play any games at the end of the season. Boy it will be great to see Ohio State play in the BCS championship after sitting on the shelf for about two months.

The flippin bowls have to turn into a playoff system. This waiting around watching all these crap bowls is ridiculous. We have no idea what type of teams we will see. Only two months to prepare. Absurd.

Fortunately we do have some college playoffs.

Unfortunately we don't get to see much of the 1-AA playoffs which are actually quite fun. Just yesterday you had the 2nd rated team (McNeese State) getting drilled at home by Eastern Washington and the 3rd rated team (Montana) losing at home by 1 point to a team (Wofford) that did what Meat Chicken couldn't do...(beat App State.). But all it did was prove that high rankings in 1-AA mean about as much as they do in 1-A...nothing. Which is why it is generally a good thing to actually play games to decide a champion.

Cannon Shell 11-25-2007 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by onebadbeast
sorry chuck, hawaii is not that good...

uhh yeah they are...

Cannon Shell 11-25-2007 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
From ESPN.com's UCLA-Oregon recap....

"It was over when... Dennis Dixon suffered a season-ending knee injury against ASU. Losing backup Ryan Leaf in the first quarter against UCLA didn't help. The Ducks never got on track."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=273280026

My 6 year old daughter could do a better job of proofreading....

She could probably do a better job of QBing than Ryan Leaf too

Cannon Shell 11-25-2007 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
You can't be serious...you're talking about a team that outside the island had to go to overtime to beat Louisiana Tech and San Jose State, and kick a last play 45 yard field goal to beat Nevada. They would not hold either Missouri or Kansas under 50 off the island.

Missouri is as good as anyone in the country. They rolled up 40 on an Illinois team OSU couldn't move the ball on. We'll see what happens next week. I think OU with Bradford is as good as anyone as well. That was a bad break when they lost him against T Tech.

You are badly, badly underrating those two teams that played last night. I was very impressed with both of them. It all came down to Kansas missing their field goals and turning the ball over and Missouri didn't miss theirs or turn it over. Either one of those teams would mutilate Ohio State. (Didn't you see OSU against the Florida spread last year?? either one could score as many ponts as they needed to score against them.) these teams aren't the big 10 crap offenses like MSU, PSU, Meat chicken, Wisconsin...they'd be playing....they didn't fare too well against the one spread like offense they did face in Illinois.

They played 2 of those games in miserable weather and one without their best player who happens to be the QB. I did not say they were the best team in the country or they should be in the BCS or championship game. I said simply that they could beat those teams which I believe to be true. If you dont think Hawaii would put up 40+ on those teams on a good field conditions you have missed the boat. There are no teams that I have seen play this year that could stop them from scoring, and scoring alot. At Hawaii where the conditions are always good, they can score alot of points. College teams just aren't built to defend that kind of offense which is why they are so successful despite having top talent. Though I would say that the recivers they have are as good at what they do as any in the college game. They run good routes and dont drop the ball and they can all run after the catch.

By the way USC would beat a combined team of Kansas and Missouri by 20.

Cannon Shell 11-25-2007 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Hawaii is Texas Tech playing with a huge homefield advantage in a bad conference.

Hawaii is better than Texas Tech.

Bigsmc 11-25-2007 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
She could probably do a better job of QBing than Ryan Leaf too

LOL, she may not be as good a QB as Ryan, but her temper could give him a run for his money. "Don't talk to me!"

Cannon Shell 11-25-2007 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
Fortunately we do have some college playoffs.

Unfortunately we don't get to see much of the 1-AA playoffs which are actually quite fun. Just yesterday you had the 2nd rated team (McNeese State) getting drilled at home by Eastern Washington and the 3rd rated team (Montana) losing at home by 1 point to a team (Wofford) that did what Meat Chicken couldn't do...(beat App State.). But all it did was prove that high rankings in 1-AA mean about as much as they do in 1-A...nothing. Which is why it is generally a good thing to actually play games to decide a champion.

Novel idea having teams actually play...

ddthetide 11-25-2007 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Hawaii is better than Texas Tech.

Hawaii's offense is better and their defense is Much better. TT defense is terrible.


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