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Travis Stone 10-25-2007 09:50 AM

It only rains at Monmouth, and not Belmont?

The sport just got a real bad dose of bad luck.

Antitrust32 10-25-2007 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
What's the matter with Gulfstream? And from what I remember Woodbine was nice.


cant hold it at gulfstream anymore, unless you only want 10,000 people to be able to go.

philcski 10-25-2007 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
I want to see them make the decision to run on a course that is completely unsafe for racing..Moreover I want counsel to tell them they aren't at huge risk. I am going to try and reach Zoffinger and see what his thoughts are.

look I hope the weather clears and its all BS.

He's in the 4th tomorrow. Talk to him in the paddock.

philcski 10-25-2007 09:56 AM

Also, maybe everyone's memory is short but about 30 minutes before the '04 Derby was one of the heaviest downpours in the HISTORY of Louisville... there were literally lakes in the infield... last I checked they still ran the race.

Coach Pants 10-25-2007 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Also, maybe everyone's memory is short but about 30 minutes before the '04 Derby was one of the heaviest downpours in the HISTORY of Louisville... there were literally lakes in the infield... last I checked they still ran the race.

Phil you're a good guy and all but your bias is showing. That was one race.

freddymo 10-25-2007 09:58 AM

Why because its predicted to pour for the next 48 hours. Why because if it pours for 48 hours the turf may become completely unstable and unsafe.. Why because I have no experience having an attorney tell me that if you take this risk you and your company are in harms way.. Why because we have never seen jocks walk out or decline to race when they thought their lives were at risk.. Listen JO this may all be BS but if it pours too much the races could and should be cancelled.. As usual you over step your boundarys.. Look your a nice two dollar handicapper leave it at that. get back to the PP's were you belong

freddymo 10-25-2007 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
He's in the 4th tomorrow. Talk to him in the paddock.

I call his cell instead

Coach Pants 10-25-2007 10:01 AM

From what I gather freddymo is an industry insider...and that explains alot considering most of the industry insiders are retards.

freddymo 10-25-2007 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
From what I gather freddymo is an industry insider...and that explains alot considering most of the industry insiders are retards.

Industry please I have absolutely nothing to do horse racing

philcski 10-25-2007 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Phil you're a good guy and all but your bias is showing. That was one race.

Nah, I'm not biased- why you say? All I'm sayin' is... the show must go on with the big days. Thankfully it seems the rain they were predicting today is holding off, maybe we catch a bit of a break?

Come to think of it that was a really good Turf Classic, Stroll storming home through the rain.

Bigsmc 10-25-2007 10:12 AM

I've been in NJ for 24 hours now and if they call this "pouring" up here it is a joke. It's raining, that's it. Rain showers for 4 days are not going to flood the turf course. Coming from Florida where we measure storms by how many inches it rains per hour, this weather is not a big deal. Don't get me wrong, I will be in misery Saturday because my seats are on the apron with no shelter (and it is WAY too cold). I'm hoping there will be plenty of space to wander under a roof or it will be a very long day.

That said, it will be sloppy and the turf will be saturated, but there is zero chance they come off the turf and zero chance the jocks walk out (or refuse) on this possible huge payday. These pinheads risk their life every single day riding for a ton less money than 1Mil Friday, 2Mil, 2Mil and 3Mil on Saturday. They'll wear life vests in case their horse can't swim rather than refuse to ride.

As far as the location, it rains at Churchill, Belmont, Arlington and Woodbine in late Oct. early Nov. too. This weather is not unique to NJ.

Storm Cadet 10-25-2007 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
And I live here and love going, but this is absurd! '95 was the worst as it poured the entire day. 2000 was not as wet but it was absolutely freezing. '05 I guess could be considered balmy by the standards set by two prior BC days at Belmont, but still not enjoyable in the slightest. And now here we are in 2007. Racing at the smallest track imaginable and you'll need to build an Arc by Saturday if the forecast holds true. Maybe the "Racing Form" can include a "K" for those horses that have ever rehabbed at KESMARC. I think they'll be at a distinct advantage. Let's hope and pray the geniuses that seem to never be right in forecasting the weather are wrong just one more time. Can anyone recommend a good raincoat as my seats are in the 800's both days?



NoLuvForPletch 10-25-2007 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Nah, I'm not biased- why you say? All I'm sayin' is... the show must go on with the big days. Thankfully it seems the rain they were predicting today is holding off, maybe we catch a bit of a break?

Come to think of it that was a really good Turf Classic, Patrol storming home through the rain.

Actually I think that may be worse. I think the quicker the next storm gets here the better because they seem pretty sure IT IS going to get here (99% chance of rain). Looks like they are calling for things to clear up by Sat night now and the drop in temps will be about 20 degrees. So hopefully the next storm can get in and out by Saturday post time.

stonegossard 10-25-2007 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Why because its predicted to pour for the next 48 hours. Why because if it pours for 48 hours the turf may become completely unstable and unsafe.. Why because I have no experience having an attorney tell me that if you take this risk you and your company are in harms way.. Why because we have never seen jocks walk out or decline to race when they thought their lives were at risk.. Listen JO this may all be BS but if it pours too much the races could and should be cancelled.. As usual you over step your boundarys.. Look your a nice two dollar handicapper leave it at that. get back to the PP's were you belong

Who is JO?

NoLuvForPletch 10-25-2007 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard
Who is JO?

I'm guessing Jerk Off?

slotdirt 10-25-2007 10:32 AM

This reminds me of the Virginia Fall Races last year where I had purchased a box, and it had been raining pretty good for several days. I called, asked the racing office if the races were going to be run despite the weather, and was told "we've been running these races for 50 years and they've never been cancelled. The horses don't melt, and neither do we." And this was over hurdles.

Why is it that we pussyfoot around rain here in the States, while in Europe the thought of delaying or cancelling races because of a little wet turf is never even considered?

stonegossard 10-25-2007 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
I'm guessing Jerk Off?


I see......thanks for the splanation.



Could also be Jag Off.


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