I could add tons, but choose not to. Why add something when you don't feel like your opinion matters.

Tons like what? Shaggy Mane will be on the lead ?

Fascinating......really.

You have been all over me for months. And now that I stand-up and give it back to you you have the nerve to complain. Give me a break. See, even in this post you take a stab at me. If you are going to start in on me, you better believe I am going to cross the line. And what purpose does it make to say someone is posting fake bets with no evidence or calling someone stupid etc etc.

This is a perfect example. In my post, I was agreeing with DaHoss that Shaggy Mane will be on the lead. Why doesn't he get this response from you?

I can of course, find posts to support my claim....only problem is that they have all been deleted. I can still see them....but they don't really need to be brought to the forefront of the site again.

and have you considered for one moment that dahoss and BTW attack you because of previous arguments? don't give me the "it's the internet" argument....because I know both of them and I can assure you that they don't take what goes on here personally, but at the same time, what goes on here is not exactly in a vacum....and when posters have certain fundamental disagreements there will always be friction.

and to your previous comment, that I could add to this site if I was less intimidated....there isn't a member here that intimidates me...I choose not to post most of the time because to me "It's the internet:rolleyes: " and I don't care what other people think, and don't have the interest to defend my opinion on most topics...I find it tiresome.

Because he doesnt lower himself to talking about other people's families. The guy tells you something about his mother being sick and you continue? If you dont like the guy it's one thing, but at that point you shoulda shut the phuck up instead of continuing. Real classy move a-hole.

you're not helping here stone....

DaHoss and BTW attacked me for no reason. BTW because of my opinion of Zito, not of BTW and DaHoss for whatever reason. Again, find where I started anything about them first. Anything. I never said anything negative about either of them until they said something deragotory about me. I don't take much of anything personally. it is important to any board to have fundamental differences without friction. And if there is friction, there is the instant message feature that the party can use to settle the friction so it doesnt involve other posters. And you said it yourself: "don't have the interest to defend my opinion on most topics." Why does anyone need to defend themself on here?

Ok...I will back off.....because it's obvious I intimidate you. Regardless of what you claim in your post above.

And at some point you have to take it a step further and that is what I did. I will agree that I lower myself, but it is also pretty low to continuously barage someone whenever he/she posts a thought or a selection.

Again, another perfect example. The sarcasm on this board has gotten well out of control.

I admit that I crossed the line. That is who I am. I will always take it a step further. And I never ever said you said anything about my family. You are more than welcome to, I really do not care. To me, everything is fair game in this sort of thing.

if you are going to state an opinion...especially if you decide to present it as a fact (which many people here do) then you MUST be ready and willing to defend your postition....no one can expect to just say something and have it unequivocally accepted.

I have yet (in over 5000 posts) to see BTW insult someone's mother (I doubt dahoss has done it either though I am not positive).....I have, however seen you do it 2x in 2 days....getting attacked yourself is not a valid excuse IMO, we all make decisions, some of yours have been poor.

Never said BTW or DaHoss mentioned my family, but I mentioned theirs and I am completely comfortable with what I said and where I took it. I am ready to defend my opinion when I base it on fact. But please present an arguement to why my opinion is wrong without any sarcasm, put-downs etc etc. Why not just present your argument and leave it at that.

human nature plain and simple....no matter how much one desires utopia we all know it is just an illusion....and usually the one's crying out for it the loudest are the one's who are doing the most to prevent its realization.

It's one thing to rip on someone about there opinions,picks, etc...pretty harmless.....but to take it "a step further" like you did is ridiculous.

I dont really agree with this. I am not asking for Utopia, just for people to give the proper respect to people who post here. And again, BTW and DaHoss started in on me and never apologized. To me, I have to put an end to this disdain they have for me. There is a great quote that I have all my employees memorize "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." I am fine with people not liking me or whatever, but why not just ignore my posts. Why do they feel the need to egg me on.