Going by the pure points in the Sagarin as of right now New England would be two point favorites at Indy.

Tommy,
If the Colts and my Pats are both undefeated. Vegas will give the edge to Indy IMO

I have a notion you are right.

NE is 7 and 0 against the spread They could be lookin ahead to Indy. Let the number go up ..the more the better. Good Luck KP

Thank you kind sir.

Your out of your mind. Vegas makes the spread for one reason and one reason only, to get EVEN action on the game so they can make their money on the juice. If they make Indy the favorites, it will be the most uneven game in the history of sports wagering. More then the games that that kid at ASU fixed. Maybe 5-7 is a little high but NE will at least be a 3pt favorite, that will get even action

I'm not going to get into this with you of all people. We will have to see come next Monday
:cool:

NE will be 3 1/2 over Indy assuming all major players healthy. NE will beat Wash by 21+ unless bad weather.

Damnnnnnnnnnnn, 21 pts???? Thats alot of points to lay for a team that might POSSIBLY be overlooking WAS for the 11/04 game with INDy. Trap games do exist and this has the making for one. I could totally be wrong and most likely am, but I think Washington has something up their sleeves for NE. Gibbs is playing the part of the wounded elk a little too well.

You are right. He has seemed clueless since....1990? Just biding his time...

The Pats will not overlook anyone because they and the coach seem to relish beating the hell out of everybody. They are not worried about fallout or anything else. The only way Washington covers is if Belichek simply does not want to show too much or the weather is bad and the field is slippery. If the weather is good Pats will score 35 and Washington has almost no chance to score more than 14 without a bunch of turnovers.

The Redskins will be the toughest test so far.
They play to stay close and with confidence.
This is not like the Cowboys who actually think
they can go out and play even up football with
a machine. When the Cowboys got some mistakes
out of NE, they should have rammed the ball down
the throat. Keep the ball away from Brady. Trying to
outscore NE is madness. Patience and hope for mistakes.

Washington may be able to accomplish this.
The goal is first downs and keeping the ball.
This is also why I think INdy has a chance against
the machine. Indy plays smart football.

Wanna bet?

I will take Washington with the line?
Yes. I will take that. We will have to decide
how many points. If its wash. +16 or 17 im in.
What is the line (which house)? Gotta be around 16 or 17?

i will say the pats will not be looking ahead to indy. bill tells them every week one game at a time. dont look ahead,your record is 0 and 0 going into this game. it has worked for the last several years. and will again.

Make it 16 1/2 and we got a bet!!

that's the line in todays paper.

does he say we all need to be on the same page?

Allrighty then 17. 7 + 7 + 3 = push.

How much, when and where?

Ball is in your court.

Actually I just lobbed it back to your part of the court.

Should we trade in raw materials, or currency?