I think I would love to have a horse like him in my barn any day. True he isn't the top guy in his crop, but if he is so slow and so overhyped, why isn't his name the Green Monkey?

Marcavelley was tons the best in that race. Reverse the trips of Nobiz and Marc, and Marc wins that race by 4+ lengths.

Is it maybe possible that there is a middle range between a horse being "great" or being "slow?"
Personally, I think winning a G2 at Saratoga is a pretty impressive turf debut.
Marcavelly and Distorted Reality are both decent horses, and there is certainly no shame in beating horses of that caliber. Nobiz might not be a consistent G1-caliber horse, (despite his score in the Wood) but he is certainly a G2/G3-caliber horse, perhaps on the dirt and the turf.
I wouldn't call that slow.

You have a barn?

Yep, a virtual one. ;)

I do belong to a partnership and own % of more then a few horses. I would love to own a few shares of NoBiz, I certainly wouldn't turn them down if the oppertunity came along!

Careful PP, I will put you in Camel Clutch, break your back and make you humble! Respect Iron Shiek Jr!

For a first try on the turf that was pretty good. Nobiz took a little while to relax but I think he may get the hang of the turf thing compared to dirt. One would have to consider that a very pleasing run even if the fav? or close to the fav., did have a rough go.