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trifecta124 07-22-2007 10:25 AM

As always, the Dems are full of criticism with very little critical thinking. Everyone is a great Monday morning QB. We shouldn't have done this, but we should have done that.

Oh by the way, the Dems will lose again in 08. They have no platform.

Danzig 07-22-2007 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Danzig,
Seriously, I don't see the connect between G W Bush and Lincoln other than both were Repuplicans.
One has done his darndest to destroy and divide nations through war and lies to substantiate. The other did his darndest to preserve the Union, honor the fallen, and seek freedom for all through honest discourse.
And, no, as some previous posters have stated, there's nothing "funny" about that.
Spin away. Believe what you do. As do I.
http://mwcnews.net/content/view/15590/26/

depends on who you listen to regarding lincoln, depends on what side you were on. it cracks me up down here to hear people say that lincoln was a war criminal(the same people who say the south will rise again, whatever that means, that lee was a hero, etc), that he suspended habeus corpus (where else have i heard that lately?), his wife was a spy, was for the south, etc. it's very similar to now. it depends on 'what side you're on' now as well. for every person who says bush is wrong, you can find some who support his stance.
very curious to see how this will all shake out, and what bushes library one day will have. lincoln is history, bush is history in the making.

Downthestretch55 07-22-2007 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
depends on who you listen to regarding lincoln, depends on what side you were on. it cracks me up down here to hear people say that lincoln was a war criminal(the same people who say the south will rise again, whatever that means, that lee was a hero, etc), that he suspended habeus corpus (where else have i heard that lately?), his wife was a spy, was for the south, etc. it's very similar to now. it depends on 'what side you're on' now as well. for every person who says bush is wrong, you can find some who support his stance.
very curious to see how this will all shake out, and what bushes library one day will have. lincoln is history, bush is history in the making.

"For every person who says bush is wrong, you can find some who support his stance."
Don't think so. 28% vs 72% doesn't substanitate that claim.


And, Dahoss, I already told you that I don't take meds. No more insults please. Facts, huh?

ArlJim78 07-22-2007 11:35 AM

How quickly we forget. Anyone recall this story from last summer. This "concept" could have killed thousands if carried out.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/10/us.security/index.html

fortunately for us in the US we've managed to thwart several attacks in the concept stage, but the plans are real. Others haven't been so lucky.
Here is a list of ten major attacks that have been squashed since 2001.


1) The West Coast Airliner Plot: In mid-2002 the U.S. disrupted a plot to attack targets on the West Coast of the United States using hijacked airplanes. The plotters included at least one major operational planner involved in planning the events of 9/11.
2)The East Coast Airliner Plot: In mid-2003 the U.S. and a partner disrupted a plot to attack targets on the East Coast of the United States using hijacked commercial airplanes.
3)The Jose Padilla Plot: In May 2002 the U.S. disrupted a plot that involved blowing up apartment buildings in the United States. One of the plotters, Jose Padilla, also discussed the possibility of using a "dirty bomb" in the U.S.
4)The 2004 UK Urban Targets Plot: In mid-2004 the U.S. and partners disrupted a plot that involved urban targets in the United Kingdom. These plots involved using explosives against a variety of sites.
5)The 2003 Karachi Plot: In the Spring of 2003 the U.S. and a partner disrupted a plot to attack Westerners at several targets in Karachi, Pakistan.
6)The Heathrow Airport Plot: In 2003 the U.S. and several partners disrupted a plot to attack Heathrow Airport using hijacked commercial airliners. The planning for this attack was undertaken by a major 9/11 operational figure.
7)The 2004 UK Plot: In the Spring of 2004 the U.S. and partners, using a combination of law enforcement and intelligence resources, disrupted a plot to conduct large-scale bombings in the UK.
8)The 2002 Arabian Gulf Shipping Plot: In late 2002 and 2003 the U.S. and a partner nation disrupted a plot by al-Qa'ida operatives to attack ships in the Arabian Gulf.
9)The 2002 Straits of Hormuz Plot: In 2002 the U.S. and partners disrupted a plot to attack ships transiting the Straits of Hormuz.
10)The 2003 Tourist Site Plot: In 2003 the U.S. and a partner nation disrupted a plot to attack a tourist site outside the United States

Downthestretch55 07-22-2007 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I do have an honest question DTS. Take your time and answer it. Other than posting all of your political thoughts on a horse racing board, do you make any attempt to change what you see as wrongs in the world? Seriously. Do you protest the war, run for office, anything other than post on a horse racing board?

Answer to your question:
yes

ArlJim78 07-22-2007 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
"For every person who says bush is wrong, you can find some who support his stance."
Don't think so. 28% vs 72% doesn't substanitate that claim.

if you're going to cite job approval ratings then please also cite the congressional ratings which are just as low.

Danzig 07-22-2007 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
if you're going to cite job approval ratings then please also cite the congressional ratings which are just as low.

yeah, they are. our citizens don't have much faith in any portion of our govt right now. dems ran on the notion of change, but have changed nothing.




i think bushes biggest mistake (other than going into iraq) was in not rallying the citizens behind the whole war on terrorism. he made it sound like it would have no impact, don't worry, go about your business--so a lot of people really think if it's not worth worrying about, how can it be worth dying for? if we don't need to worry about it, why are we losing soldiers? is it a big deal or not?

and on the other hand, you have people who don't worry about it--and really don't know much about what's going on. so you have a pollster call, and ask do you think the war should end? why sure they answer. i have a hard time taking polls seriously, when many people in this country wouldn't know the pres if they bumped into him on the street, can't name the vp, or the speaker, or even half of the supreme court.
oh, but they know all about lindsay lohan or angelina....

Coach Pants 07-22-2007 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mortyfeatherhands
33.I'm a rear window sticker..my owner is a dumb azz.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Downthestretch55 07-22-2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Thought so

Now would you mind answering a question of mine,,,
You seem to be very supportive of the failed policies of the current administration. Why?

Downthestretch55 07-22-2007 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I am not supportive of most of Bush's policies as I have told you many times. Like I have also said many times I agree with a lot of your views on things. My problem as I have said to you many times is with the way you never stop with this stuff. EVERYONE knows your thoughts. Most are bright enough to watch the news, read a paper, etc. You have some crazy agenda and why you have chose to bring it to a horseracing forum is beyond me. See, you alienate those who agree with you because you never stop. Who are you helping here? Direct that energy somewhere where it might help and pick up a racing form once in awhile, it'll do you some good.

DaHoss,
Thanks for explaining.
I post in the "off topics-political room" to discuss current topics. This is not a crazy agenda.
Do you wish to discuss Bush and his failures...or me?
By the way, go to the "selections" thread and look at Guido's thread.
He asked for winners as he's a newbie. I gave him two winners out of four picks, and one was a loser at 30-1. How many have you put up lately?

hi_im_god 07-22-2007 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
DaHoss,
Thanks for explaining.
I post in the "off topics-political room" to discuss current topics. This is not a crazy agenda.
Do you wish to discuss Bush and his failures...or me?
By the way, go to the "selections" thread and look at Guido's thread.
He asked for winners as he's a newbie. I gave him two winners out of four picks, and one was a loser at 30-1. How many have you put up lately?

so i jump ship in hong kong and make my way over to tibet, and i get on as a looper at a course over in the himalayas. a looper, you know, a caddy, a looper, a jock. so, I tell them i'm a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? the dalai lama, himself. twelfth son of the lama. the flowing robes, the grace, bald... striking. so, i'm on the first tee with him. i give him the driver. he hauls off and whacks one - big hitter, the lama - long, into a ten-thousand foot crevasse, right at the base of this glacier. do you know what the lama says? gunga galunga... gunga, gunga-galunga. so we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. and I say, "hey, lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." and he says, "oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." so I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

hi_im_god 07-22-2007 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mortyfeatherhands
33.I'm a rear window sticker..my owner is a dumb azz.

great.

now i have to peel off my "any thought short enough to be expressed on a bumper sticker isn't worth sharing" sticker.

Mortimer 07-22-2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
great.

now i have to peel off my "any thought short enough to be expressed on a bumper sticker isn't worth sharing" sticker.

I think vanity bumper stickers will come into popularity.




Think of the possibilites.








DIAPER










Yow.











I hope it doesn't catch on.

Mortimer 07-22-2007 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



What can I say....




..perhaps a simple "Fucl<in'Aye!" will suffice.


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