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2MinsToPost 07-09-2007 08:14 PM

Is The Breeder's Cup ruining racing or is the ownership of some of these animals ruining racing? My point is this, those that say that The Breeder's Cup is ruining racing might think different in November when they can't sleep the night before with excitement about the Saturday when the best of the best meet and battle. Maybe the real problem from my novice eyes is the money in the ownership side and their desire to turn a profit versus a true love of the game and the horse? Lets buy this one for a million, race him for a year or a little more and hope to make millions after he snags a couple Graded Stakes and is sent to the farm to make babies. I realize few make money in this game but at times I think some folks let their ego and their wallet drive their decisions versus what some of the blue collar folks do - and that is own and train for the love of the game. I often at times think about a local trainer who holds down a ful time job here in Columbus and drives to River Downs almost every day checking on his stock. Pure love of the game. Last Friday their he was in the paddock still in his suit and tie from work saddling his horse. Pure love of the game.

gamblin4ever 07-09-2007 08:45 PM

Graded Stakes
 
There are just too many gaded stakes in racing.

Owners/Breeders are only looking to get black type for the horses to help increase stud fees. Decrease the number of graded stakes run to try and force the connections to race against the better horses running instead of some of the races we've been seeing recently.

FairPlay 07-09-2007 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
yawn, here you go again

you mean like the pacific classic race of 05' that sucked so bad. it only had surf cat and borrego

You forgot the 3rd Place finisher who led most of the way and had a 112 Beyer in defeat who also now has 7 Grade 1 wins - despite the merchants of venom on this thread.

NTamm1215 07-09-2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
You're right, my mistake. In that case, it's pretty stupid to have a G-I sprint for three-year-old fillies in July when the Test is less than a month away..

That's a little bit of a surprising statement. Why wouldn't a horse be able to run in both? For all of this talk it is probably worth recognizing that Dream Rush has run three times at Belmont and as far as I know is heading to the Test. At least they're getting their money's worth on the track with her. I hope she wins the Test.

NT

2Hot4TV 07-10-2007 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
Is The Breeder's Cup ruining racing or is the ownership of some of these animals ruining racing? My point is this, those that say that The Breeder's Cup is ruining racing might think different in November when they can't sleep the night before with excitement about the Saturday when the best of the best meet and battle. Maybe the real problem from my novice eyes is the money in the ownership side and their desire to turn a profit versus a true love of the game and the horse? Lets buy this one for a million, race him for a year or a little more and hope to make millions after he snags a couple Graded Stakes and is sent to the farm to make babies. I realize few make money in this game but at times I think some folks let their ego and their wallet drive their decisions versus what some of the blue collar folks do - and that is own and train for the love of the game. I often at times think about a local trainer who holds down a ful time job here in Columbus and drives to River Downs almost every day checking on his stock. Pure love of the game. Last Friday their he was in the paddock still in his suit and tie from work saddling his horse. Pure love of the game.

The sport needs new owners and they need some tax incentives to draw them into the game. More owners mean more horses and more horses mean fuller feilds. The sport seems doomed to less race tracks and racing days.

Danzig 07-10-2007 12:31 PM

the whole problem right now is the breeding aspect. it's bigger business than the business it 'feeds'. rather than the best and brightest on the track being a good advertisement for their sire, or farm, they ARE the next big thing. situations such as that with point ashley don't help either! not enough money to be made on the track, it's all in the shed.

JJP 07-10-2007 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmeastar
So Xtra Heat was no good??

How many years ago was that? Yeah, and Safely Kept and Ruffian were great as well.


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