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Kasept 06-29-2007 12:23 PM

Friday Belmont Changes...
 
BELMONT: http://www.equibase.com/premium/changes/BEL-changes.asp

Rudeboyelvis 06-29-2007 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

so much for my single in the 1st leg of the P6 :(

As expected there's a bunch.....Glad I didn't really dig into this card yet

Steve, R6 - now that we don't have True Cause as part of that Godolphin entry, do you feel as strongly about this selection on top w/ Minefield?
Trainer stats are a relatively small sample with obvious quality stock, but 55% of 11 off the +180 days and 32% first time with is hard to ignore

Rootdog1 06-29-2007 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
yes the drop, but primarily because he is simply faster, and has a good route foundation. the distance is also a bonus imo. the horses he just ran very respectively against, frank the Barber and Vice Admiral are much much better than this field. sometimes its best not to overthink a drop, sometimes its just to get the win and purse and not a sign of a big problem.

I agree with Jim. Surfer is a single in the pk6, and I am adding the 5,10,12 at big odds in the pk4. I am not a beliver in Truckee on top but he is a plodder who should hit the board. With Paula owning and traing, and purchasing this one for $17k, I think it is in for the win. Plus it was 55-1 on the board last out, so while it has not run too bad it is obvious the public has been looking for a drop. That does influence sometimes.

jms62 06-29-2007 12:53 PM

TGIF ... Weekend mode starts with the late Pick-4

1,2,5,9/5,6/2,5,7,1,4,9/1,8==>$96.00
5,9/5/2,9/1,2,5,6,8,9======>$24.00
5,9/3,4,7/1,2,9/8,1========>$36.00
2/3,4,5,6,7/2,1,7,8/1,8=====>$40.00
======
196.00

Good Luck All

PS...

Great day yesterday Steveo...

Rootdog1 06-29-2007 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I've worked through the first half of the Holly card. For what it's worth, in third I've got it 9/3/1 with Gotta Go Gal on the suspect list for the reasons mentioned by others.

In the fourth race, on my figures I've got Surfer Kris as a big standout. Most likely this will be a single for me. I think this horse rolls over this field easily.

the 5f in the 3rd scares me a bit....all of the chalk will be stalking or closing....do you think any other prices look interesting? Like the 11 which adds blinkers back and continues to drop?

Kasept 06-29-2007 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Steve, R6 - now that we don't have True Cause as part of that Godolphin entry, do you feel as strongly about this selection on top w/ Minefield?

For purposes of the P4, yes. Prefer to isolate there and fish elsewhere for prices including the nightcap. If you don't accept the entry in the 6th, then it gets wacky needing 2-3 to cover.

Scav 06-29-2007 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rootdog1
I agree with Jim. Surfer is a single in the pk6, and I am adding the 5,10,12 at big odds in the pk4. I am not a beliver in Truckee on top but he is a plodder who should hit the board. With Paula owning and traing, and purchasing this one for $17k, I think it is in for the win. Plus it was 55-1 on the board last out, so while it has not run too bad it is obvious the public has been looking for a drop. That does influence sometimes.

I am hoping to get all nuts on this thing tonight, but it entails hitting the early DD without Noble Court, I like Cerin's horse a little. 1,5/1 DD

Rootdog1 06-29-2007 01:25 PM

Well, good luck.....I am not crazy about that play but I will cheer you home Scavs as I want you to come hard at the 6 tonight.

ArlJim78 06-29-2007 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rootdog1
the 5f in the 3rd scares me a bit....all of the chalk will be stalking or closing....do you think any other prices look interesting? Like the 11 which adds blinkers back and continues to drop?

i'm can't find anything really. the 11 adding blinkers? well they tried that before, i'm not buying it. to me it looks like they in desparation mode and will try anything, dropping, blinkers, etc. don't think it will matter.

I would be shocked if the winner wasn't either the 9 or 3, perhaps the 1.

Scav 06-29-2007 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
i'm can't find anything really. the 11 adding blinkers? well they tried that before, i'm not buying it. to me it looks like they in desparation mode and will try anything, dropping, blinkers, etc. don't think it will matter.

I would be shocked if the winner wasn't either the 9 or 3, perhaps the 1.

look at the 4, rocketship and getting Lasix BACK finally

Rootdog1 06-29-2007 02:10 PM

yes scavs, just added the 4 to my pk4...specially since the speed ball 7 Melodious has scratched......

Scav 06-29-2007 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rootdog1
yes scavs, just added the 4 to my pk4...specially since the speed ball 7 Melodious has scratched......

that horse can hold for 5f, and the re-addition of Lasix is a huge positive IMO....

Late Fires 06-29-2007 02:29 PM

What are the thoughts on the 9, Tanner's Rocket, in the 6th race? Looks competitive on speed figures, and Steve sees fit to place in the #1 spot in his selections, but I'm concerned about wheeling back on 5 days rest after a 1 1/16 effort in which he appeared to tire late.

ArlJim78 06-29-2007 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
look at the 4, rocketship and getting Lasix BACK finally

yeah I did look at the 4, as he was about the only other one I thought might have a shot. I'm pretty hohum on him though, you can see the 1 and the 3 in his pp lines, and he didn't fare very well against them before. He does have some speed so its not entirely impossible. I'm not convinced that adding the lasix at this point is a big deal. I think this guy needs a soft field of calbreds at Fairplex.

Rootdog1 06-29-2007 02:46 PM

5f is the ONLY thing he has going for him. If it was 6f I agree he would get drummed by these like the past...

-BT- 06-29-2007 02:58 PM

Steve,

maybe i'll bring you some luck tonight b/c there is no way Jimmie Pong gets anywhere on my tickets. The reason why i say it will bring you luck is b/c i've been standing on an iceberg the last month or so. This horse is a consistent hanger, cost me a nice PK4 last out and though it looked like he was gonna get by Lil Nugget in the previous race he just hung on and held the 2nd place spot.

gl all

-bt-

Rootdog1 06-29-2007 03:00 PM

the 11 is the sleeper, I'm telling ya....

Rootdog1 06-29-2007 03:06 PM

Got 4 going in on the pk6

3)1,9,11
4)6
5)1,4,7
6)1,2,5,9,11
7)3,8
8)4,9,14
$540

pk4's
1)2,3
2)1,7
3)1,9,11,4
4)5,6,10,12
$48

5)1,4,7
6)1,2,11
7)8
8)4,6,8,9,14
$45


Good Luck ALL

Scav 06-29-2007 03:58 PM

I finally agree, I am singling the 6 also, Paula ****s me and it will be tilt time because otherwise, I should hit it. I am considering Moogie in the 7th, back to O'Neil is my only angle.....(good recent works)

longnite 06-29-2007 06:17 PM

I am going to try tonight.

Early pick 4

1) 2,3,4
2)1,5
3)1,4,8
4)6,9

Goodluck everyone


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