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It would be really lovely if he made a cameo here on this specific topic. |
I'll give him a call.
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This is why I like this forum. There are more actual horsepeople on here that know the game than just a bunch of people that like them cause they are so pretty. I've been bringing up this topic for years now. I remember when Eddington won the Pimlico Special and it just sickened me. The only reason he won it was because every single horse that SHOULD have been there and WOULD have been there had this been the late 80's to the late 90's.....was gone. Either they were retired, injured, or just resting. Yet, he won it and everyone thought all of a sudden that this made him a good horse. U try to tell some people that just because Flashy Bull or Colonial Colony won this race doesn't make them a legit grade one horse and they'll argue that it does. To me, a legitimate grade one horse is one that u could drop into any era and they would be competitive with just about any other horse.
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Man you guys are really hard on poor old Flashy. Sure he had a really good trip, but did you see the way he moved past a rabbit, a Hawthorne horse, and a need-the-lead horse that didn't have the lead? What a move!! Then he managed to break 13 seconds for the final furlong! What a superstar!
Although his victory may be a bad sign for the sport, it is certainly a good thing for us as handicappers. He is now coming off of 4 straight victories, which means that even if they run him in a legitimate G1 (especially if it is at 10f) he may receive some play at the windows. That is good for us. |
Didn't Jerry Bailey say that Eddington was one of the most talented horses he ever rode? :rolleyes:
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There is nothing wrong with Flashy Bull. He is a nice horse that has now won four races in a row. I always like to see these former Triple Crown trail horses do well at ages four and beyond. I just think the fact that he is now a "G1 winner" is a bit of a joke. Just out of curiosity, why do you think a Diamond Stripes victory would have been so bad? Wouldn't an undefeated 4yo gelding be kind of interesting? |
I should have said a worse "sign" for the sport I guess.
Like most, I'm not thrilled with what is passing for Grade 1 winners. Diamond Stripes is nice and all that but to see a horse as 2nd favorite in a G 1 race who never ran in a stakes vs older horses is, I think, a worse sign. That's just my opinion. I'm just a very old man who yearns for the old days when the summer handicap races meant something and the fall weight-for-age races determined the champs. |
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In these times the gap between a sharp improving N3x horse and a competitive GR1 horse is not so large. The ranks are thin at the top.
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You don't need to look any further than the aforementioned Flashy Bull so see it. On April 18th he won an OC 50k/N2X at Aqu, and less than two months later he won the G1 Stephen Foster. That is strange enough, but what really makes it strange is that he really didn't improve at all over those two months. He ran basically the same race on Saturday that he did in that race in April. In that one his effort was good enough to beat allowance horses by four lengths. Saturday it was good enough to win a G1. |
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