A co worker of mine was almost "de-legged" from a book last year, and this was over some Mickey Mouse $hit. (a few hundred)...We break his balls and recite the Eugene Ponticorvo scene when he walked into that joint and blasted that fat mess watching his ballgame while eating..I can't stand lame bettors who welch on thier bets...People that do things like that will be caught up to by the karma police sooner or later...

Not many bookmakers will take action from a 12 year old.

Someone making this drug for distribution has that exact intent.

So, it's drug dealers that sell to minors you have a problem with? The ones who only sell to people of the age of consent are OK?

That's a doozy of a broad generalization.

True story: Back when exacta were $5....I had a co-worker who had a 2,000 dollar tab one week....we settled accts every week. The courier was his friend. The courier gave 1500 to pay a weekly winner, and the guy who owed the 2,000 used the 1500 to "tent" his house for termites! And as far as I know ....that's where it stands to this day!

No matter how anyone stands on this, the bottom line it's sad. Greta was working her way through the ranks. Being a woman in the jockey business is not easy. It's sad she chose this lifestyle. "Bad choices, bad consequences"
She has nobody to blame except the woman in the mirror. Let's hope she comes out of this a new person free of the evils of addiction.

I agree, Here in Middle Tenn. A lady shot her husband ( a minister) in the back while arguing over finances; she got 9 months!!!

Mary Winkler,right? The whole trial screamed of spousal abuse for years, and Matthew apparently did well at his job, but not at his faith! Agreed, it is a tough way to go,and it has destroyed the family as well. imho

if they both used made and sold the stufff. how come one gets 25 the other 10 years. whats up with that?:confused: :confused:

Greta, Greta , Greta, What A Wasted And Ruined Life......................

Crackdown on the bookmakers......as long as the offshores are allowed to prosper.

BTW, the reason the govt comes down so hard on drug dealers is because they are competition to the drug companies.

It really makes no sense otherwise. How else can it happen that a drug company pays off FDA officials to approve a drug they know will kill people (say Vioxx for example), the drug then does kill well into the hundreds of thousands of people in the USA, and nobody even gets a slap on the wrist?

Someone brought up preying on twelve year olds with meth. Why is it okay to give a 12yo ritalin, which is really just a form of speed?

There really seems to be no sense of perspective in this country anymore when it comes to crime and punishment. Kill someone, you get a year or so, depending on how outraged the public is.

Steal from a bank or a major corporation, you get 300 years.

Be an executive at the same bank or corporation and steal from the employees? You get slapped on the wrist with a multi million dollar buyout to leave the company and serve about 3 days in a country club prison.

No, not OK.

I have a bigger problem with drug dealers than with bookmakers.

I have a bigger problem with drug dealers who are makers and distributors of cheap chemicals which are more likely to be sold to children than I have with drug dealers who sell to adults.

This is what you asked. This is what I believe. Neither is "ok," imo, it's a matter of degree which is the topic of the thread (severity of sentence and not the condoning/condemning of the act).

Someone brought up preying on twelve year olds with meth. Why is it okay to give a 12yo ritalin, which is really just a form of speed?

You are way, way off target there my friend. As an educator, I can line up families that have suffered the ill effects of Meth addiction. As a friend of many people in Law enforcement, just listen to some of the sad stories of children whose parents are hooked on meth. I'm not a huge fan of ritalin.
I know several children who have been on it and it has helped. Ritalin is probably over prescribed, but to try to compare it to Meth is just plain ass speak.

To bad they choose the wrong path to follow. I don't feel sorry for anyone who does drugs, or sells them. Does the time fit the crime? All depends what state you live in. In Vermont, you can molest a child, and get less than 3 months, in New York, you get 25 years.

I don't know about today---but I can tell you for sure that less than 10 years ago, in my area, snorting ritalin was FAR more common among high schoolers, than the use of any other drug, outside of probably smoking marijuana.

It was a great day for a lot of kids when they got themselves prescribed ritalin....even if they weren't into snorting it....they could make money selling it.

Getting hosed on rye bread should be up there,too.

How wonderfully astute of you.

I'm sure you celebrated by running a dozen red lights.

Any prescribed medication can be abused. The discussion is Meth and it's ill effects.
We can try to get into any pshyco babble we want on here comparing meth with other ...legal or illegal, but my advice to most people on here.....stick to what your good at...Horse Racing.

but my advice to most people on here.....stick to what your good at...Horse Racing.
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