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blackthroatedwind 06-03-2007 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by slewpy
when he was racing secretary in ny he was a real nice guy if your last name was pletcher, but if you were a worker, groom ,hotwalker etc...he was your worst enemy. if a worker got hurt he would do everything he could to be sure the worker couldnt collect workers comp, and went so far as to ban a worker from the grounds for getting hurt,,,real nice guy


Those are pretty serious allegations.....I'm just curious how a racing secretary could be responsible for the claims you make. I would also love some proof or real life examples. Surely you wouldn't make these claims without any.

slewpy 06-03-2007 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Those are pretty serious allegations.....I'm just curious how a racing secretary could be responsible for the claims you make. I would also love some proof or real life examples. Surely you wouldn't make these claims without any.

it was me, thats how and its a fact that the dirty lowdown beasterd made me leave the track the day i was hurt after an ambulance took me to the hospital, then with my arm shatttered and still in a spling the trainer claimed that i wasnt hurt by a horse but some other way,and he took the side of the trainer but after 8 months of litegation and with 30 witneeses that saw me get kicked i ended up getting a petty little settlement. he is as low as human being can be because he knew for a fact that the horse kicked me and his report was that i had been injured some other way, i have a huge scar on my arm in the exact shape of the frog of the horses hoof. the amount of money i finally received was less than a months pay. when ever anyone is hurt the track tries to keep the injured worker from getting benefits because it raises the rates for insurance for the trainers, and it is a common practice, no matter the circumstance the trainer fights it and the track backs them up.

blackthroatedwind 06-03-2007 10:43 AM

So, it was you against Mike Lakow? I'm surprised to hear that. I hadn't realized he was that powerful and that Racing Secretaries represent racetracks in injury cases. The story doesn't add up to me but I wasn't at the hearings.

I am genuinely sorry to hear about your injury.

ateamstupid 06-03-2007 11:01 AM

Frankel does it again today at BEL with heavy favorite Down in the third..

blackthroatedwind 06-03-2007 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Frankel does it again today at BEL with heavy favorite Down in the third..


I fault NYRA for carding a six horse field that includes Frankel. The guy is ridiculous. Why did he enter Down in a six furlong race in the first place?

philcski 06-03-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Frankel does it again today at BEL with heavy favorite Down in the third..

He would have been 1/5 in this spot. what the hell is his problem???

blackthroatedwind 06-03-2007 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
He would have been 1/5 in this spot. what the hell is his problem???

The problem is Frankel was probably scared of a six horse field that was relatively devoid of speed....though with three first timers and the Peitz horse having early speed I'm not sure why he cared.

Once again.....you wouldn't want to risk Down's pristine record.

Coach Pants 06-03-2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
He would have been 1/5 in this spot. what the hell is his problem???

He might have a valid excuse for this one. Might need more time to recover from jet lag. :rolleyes:

Cannon Shell 06-03-2007 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by slewpy
when ever anyone is hurt the track tries to keep the injured worker from getting benefits because it raises the rates for insurance for the trainers, and it is a common practice, no matter the circumstance the trainer fights it and the track backs them up.

You should have a beef with the trainers insurance company. I can assure you that the tracks have very little interest in our workmans compensation rates.

philcski 06-03-2007 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
The problem is Frankel was probably scared of a six horse field that was relatively devoid of speed....though with three first timers and the Peitz horse having early speed I'm not sure why he cared.

Once again.....you wouldn't want to risk Down's pristine record.

Just so I'm thinking of the right filly without the PP's in front of me, she finished 2nd in the stake in CA as a maiden last year, correct?

blackthroatedwind 06-03-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Just so I'm thinking of the right filly without the PP's in front of me, she finished 2nd in the stake in CA as a maiden last year, correct?


Third in the Hollywood Starlet.

slewpy 06-03-2007 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
So, it was you against Mike Lakow? I'm surprised to hear that. I hadn't realized he was that powerful and that Racing Secretaries represent racetracks in injury cases. The story doesn't add up to me but I wasn't at the hearings.

I am genuinely sorry to hear about your injury.

no it was me verses the trainer, but i had to meet with mike lakow because at 1st the trainer claimed that he didnt know who i was, but then i showed lakow a check stub from the trainer, then the trainer claimed that he fired me the day before the accident, and as far as racing goes the racing secretary is the most powerful person at the race track. he started yelling at me telling me that i was just trying to get some money, keep in mind im setting there with my arm in a sling, i said do you want me to take the bandage off and show you? it was all about 1 thing, they dont want anyone to get workers comp benefits no matter what and EVERY workers comp claim filed in ny gets fought.


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