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Seattleallstar 05-23-2007 08:02 PM
Premium Tap is Grade 1 horse in the way Lava Man is. When faced with real Grade 1 competition their true colors are shown. That they cant win a race with true grade 1 competition, cause they dont have the class nor the talent to win

Seattleallstar 05-23-2007 08:08 PM
so far id be a total idiot to say yes given his progress as a 3 yr old, but he did win the hopeful and thats a grade 1. With that said he would have to show alot more to even be considered a true grade 1 class horse

Danzig 05-23-2007 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
So the grade 1, the Woodward, that Premium Tap won doesn't count?
well, of course not silly, since prem tap isn't a gr 1 horse!

declansharbor 05-23-2007 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
Premium Tap is Grade 1 horse in the way Lava Man is. When faced with real Grade 1 competition their true colors are shown. That they cant win a race with true grade 1 competition, cause they dont have the class nor the talent to win

Lava Man couldnt hold Tap's wang hair. Finishing a game second to the eventual H.O.Y. means nothing now-a-days? This guy is so far from reality, I'm surprised we even respond. He puts the Ma-rig-a-ma-roo on every horse he picks. (as if I dont)

fpsoxfan 05-23-2007 08:27 PM
[quote=DaHoss9698]Is Circular Quay a true grade 1 horse?[/QUOTE]

Once upon a time, I thought he was...and someone tried to warn me...oh..I think that was you.:)

ArlJim78 05-23-2007 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't even know why I am bothering. Sometimes I think I'd just be better off hitting myself in the forehead with a hammer, basically the same result.
it is quite pointless.

Seattleallstar 05-23-2007 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Lava Man couldnt hold Tap's wang hair. Finishing a game second to the eventual H.O.Y. means nothing now-a-days? This guy is so far from reality, I'm surprised we even respond. He puts the Ma-rig-a-ma-roo on every horse he picks. (as if I dont)

lots of good horses finish 2nd to a HOY, but they arent of true grade 1 caliber

Seattleallstar 05-23-2007 08:35 PM
what about horses like Early Pioneer, and that horse that won the Stephen Foster last year. Your telling me they are true grade 1 horses as well and can compete with the best?

Seattleallstar 05-23-2007 08:46 PM
who did he run against in the Woodward? Clark?.............were there other Grade 1 performers in the race???

Flower Alley doesnt count, we damn well know what happened to him

ArlJim78 05-23-2007 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
To be fair, you are right, I don't think Seek Gold is a grade 1 horse. However, given your history of picking horses here and on other sites, do you really think you are the best person to be assessing talent?

And I'm still waiting for an answer as to why winning the grade 1 Woodward, running 3rd in the BC Classic to a HOY and 3 year old champ, and running second to that same HOY again does not make him a grade 1 caliber horse. I have a feeling I'll be waiting a long time for this answer.

For s hits and giggles, would it be possible for you to give me a few examples of grade 1 caliber horses running right now. And please, try and make it as amusing as your top 10 list, I need a good laugh.
The last time he did a top horses in training list I believe horses like Ravel were on it. There were some other really funny ones as well.

miraja2 05-23-2007 09:10 PM
Oh for the love of pointgiven1985, now he is saying that a horse that has won SIX G1s (Lava Man) is not a G1 caliber horse. I am not a big fan of Lava Man, and he certainly has some severe limitations as a racehorse, but once a horse wins six G1s, saying that he isn't G1 caliber is just foolish.
Give up trying to convince him otherwise. He apparently just doesn't get it.

slotdirt 05-24-2007 08:11 AM
Colonial Colony!

cakes44 05-24-2007 08:20 AM
For everyone to enjoy...Seattle's top ten horses in training:

Seattle's Top 10 horses
1.Invasor
2.Vengenace of Rain
3.Asiatic Boy
4.Discreet Cat
5.Street Sense
6.Circular Quay
7.Rags to Riches
8.Red Rocks
9.Ravel
10.Curlin/Admire Moon

Antitrust32 05-24-2007 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by cakes44
For everyone to enjoy...Seattle's top ten horses in training:

Seattle's Top 10 horses
1.Invasor
2.Vengenace of Rain
3.Asiatic Boy
4.Discreet Cat
5.Street Sense
6.Circular Quay
7.Rags to Riches
8.Red Rocks
9.Ravel
10.Curlin/Admire Moon

besides circular quay and ravel, that is not too bad of a list

premium tap should be on that list though an he is no doubt in anyones mind (except for seattles) that he is a grade 1 horse. Premium Tap should be like 3 or 4 on that list. Didnt he win some big Arabian stake this year (Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques Cup (KSA,12F). And, according to the NTRA, he won two Grade 1 and historically major races in the Woodward and Clark.

2.5 million in winnings aint too shabby either

Seattleallstar 05-24-2007 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Just so I know, was Bernardini a grade 1 caliber horse?

he beat Bernardini???....thats news to me


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