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Charismatic1 05-19-2007 06:30 PM

Belmont should be a great race and a great cap to this Triple Crown season even if none of the top 3 from the D and P go. However, I do think Curlin will end up going in the Belmont. The owners seem pretty sporty as does Larry Jones with Hard Spun, but they are more likely to take a step back after finishing third. I was big on Any Given Saturday for the Belmont, but last I heard he had a bruised hoof.

Curlin, Nobiz Like Shobiz, Rags to Riches, Great Hunter, Slew's Tizzy, Tiago, Imawildncrazyguy, (winner of the Peter Pan), (Runner up in the Peter Pan), and possibly Zanjero and Chelokee (they'd be nuts not to run Chelokee; he just oozes a "Belmont look" with the way he travels). Who knows? We may get lucky and get one of the other two big guys from the first two races. In any case, it looks like a very intriguing, competitive race. Can't wait.

pmayjr 05-19-2007 07:05 PM

I think the one big oversight is Slew's Tizy here. He'd be going into that race on a month's rest. Not bad. Still unproven on a fast dirt surface, but I think he runs here.

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-19-2007 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
At this point I really don't care.

Sounds like rain wasn't the only thing falling on "estreet" today :(

Linny 05-19-2007 09:26 PM

Sightseeing will be there, assuming the Peter Pan is good. I doubt that SS will be back. Tiago and Great Hunter will likely be there.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-19-2007 09:31 PM

Rags To Riches has a big look in the Belmont Stakes.

I'm going to wait and see how the race shapes up and who's in it---but it's going to be very tough for me to resist betting on her.

zippyneedsawin 05-19-2007 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Rags To Riches has a big look in the Belmont Stakes.

I'm going to wait and see how the race shapes up and who's in it---but it's going to be very tough for me to resist betting on her.


Me too.

packerbacker7964 05-19-2007 10:07 PM

Has a Filly ever won the Belmont? I don't recall a filly ever running in it.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-19-2007 10:11 PM

It's been won by a filly twice...Ruthless took the very 1st Belmont Stakes ever...which was in the 1860's I believe.....and a filly who's name escapes me won it in 1905.

Hasn't been done in over a hundred years---but hey, you guys know how I feel about those trends.

Two very nice fillies ran it in the 90's....My Flag was 3rd to Editor's Note and Skip Away....Silverbulletday was off the board.

Rags To Riches has a monster look in that race regardless of any historical stats.

CoronadosQuest 05-19-2007 10:18 PM

Street Sense isn't going to the Belmont Stakes

http://www.drf.com/news/article/85075.html

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The final leg of the Triple Crown is the Belmont Stakes on June 9 in New York. Carl Nafzger, the trainer of Street Sense, said he would not go on to the Belmont. Asmussen said he would consider the Belmont for Curlin.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-19-2007 10:22 PM

That's understandable.

Linny 05-20-2007 08:05 AM

Tanya won on 1905.

Ruthless was not only a filly, she was foaled in NY! A NY bred! Imagine...


It really is too bad that the G1 Belmont is a non-event for so many horses which at some point in the season were considered amongst the top 10 Derby candidates. In fact it almost seems like for all but the Derby winner, the the Preakness and the Belmont are meaningless.

herkhorse 05-20-2007 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Rags To Riches has a big look in the Belmont Stakes.

I'm going to wait and see how the race shapes up and who's in it---but it's going to be very tough for me to resist betting on her.


I would have to agree, at this point she is the only one left- but we'll see, 3 weeks is a long time.

cmorioles 05-20-2007 08:08 AM

I imagine Flying First Class, and perhaps Teufelsberg, will show up as well.

herkhorse 05-20-2007 08:12 AM

What about Officer Rocket? What happened to him?

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-20-2007 08:12 AM

Something tells me the "top 3" from both the Derby & Preakness...WON'T be going.
They're saving the "test of the champions" for...the lady!

fpsoxfan 05-20-2007 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
At this point I really don't care.

Well...It's a new day....and now I do care. From a NYRA standpoint, I'd love to see a SS/Curlin rematch. Why not? Three weeks is a nice rest for both.
I just hope the weather is nice that day and I hope they load up the undercard. The negative attitude yesterday on my part was due in part to all of the chalk at both Belmont and Pimilco. Also I wanted to see the potential for the Triple Crown. I lost a few hundred yesterday..not really the reason for sour grapes...In fact I bet Hard Spun. I disliked him in the Derby and loved him here. Oh well..that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-20-2007 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
What about Officer Rocket? What happened to him?

Could see him in lesser local Derbies this summer.
Welcome aboard Herkhorse!
I just noticed your a couple miles "up the road" from me. Spent a lot of time at the Herkimer OTB in the late 80's & early 90's when I lived in Fort Plain. Don't care for the new location across from the McDonalds though, the old place was great back in the 80's.
Ever been to the OTB at Mr.McGills up the road in Schulyer? Heather the bartender is real friendly and cute! :D

fpsoxfan 05-20-2007 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Could see him in lesser local Derbies this summer.
Welcome aboard Herkhorse!
I just noticed your a couple miles "up the road" from me. Spent a lot of time at the Herkimer OTB in the late 80's & early 90's when I lived in Fort Plain. Don't care for the new location across from the McDonalds though, the old place was great back in the 80's.
Ever been to the OTB at Mr.McGills up the road in Schulyer? Heather the bartender is real friendly and cute! :D



Easy Hoffy you dog you.

fpsoxfan 05-20-2007 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
What about Officer Rocket? What happened to him?

Welcome Herk....Hope you enjoy posting here. I'm another of the FP guys on here. Nice folks here. There's one dick that has a problem with Fort Plain guys but other than that...ENJOY!

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-20-2007 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Well...It's a new day....and now I do care. From a NYRA standpoint, I'd love to see a SS/Curlin rematch. Why not? Three weeks is a nice rest for both.
I just hope the weather is nice that day and I hope they load up the undercard. The negative attitude yesterday on my part was due in part to all of the chalk at both Belmont and Pimilco. Also I wanted to see the potential for the Triple Crown. I lost a few hundred yesterday..not really the reason for sour grapes...In fact I bet Hard Spun. I disliked him in the Derby and loved him here. Oh well..that's my story and I'm sticking to it.


Sorry I didn't make it up yesterday, but I spend from 2:30 til 5:45 at the autograph signing in Amsterdam for the Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame "meet and greet". Met my idol; "Rowdy" Roddy Piper! Shook his hand and got his autograph...great guy, real friendly and signed for everybody. Other greats like: The Missing Link, Fabolous Moolah, Mae Young, Nick Bockwinkel, Pat Patterson, Doink the Clown and the "Million Man" Ted DiBiase. It was worth the long wait in line :o ...watched the race over at OTB and got there with 20 mins to post. Hit the early pick 4 at Pimlico for a buck and had the "triple box" in the Preak.

It's been a very good week wagering for me! :)


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