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Scav 05-21-2007 10:34 PM

HIGHLY considering singling Casual Thunder in the first leg. As much as I want to get sucked into Taylor's Route and Our Partner, I just can't do it. 5 is a rat, 1 is coming back after 11 days and shipping.....8 is a little scary but the board will tell me everything I need to know about the 6, Casual Thunder is 8/5 or 7/5 unload because of 2nd time Canani....

Scav 05-21-2007 11:29 PM

3: 2,6,7,8
4: 3,5,6,9,10,11
5: 1,4,6,7,8
6: 1,4,5,8,9,10
7: 1,3,4,6
8: 2,3,5,9

Here is what I feel are the only horses that can actually win their respective races. Now before some of your angry internet people gets nuts, in NO WAY am I playing the above ticket. I plan on spending between $900 and $1400 on one ticket. Might not be the right way but whatever. The above is more for a chart, I think that you could toss any horses not mentioned.

The only horse I could potentially single is Robbo's Courage in the 5th but given Nakatini's recent struggles and this horse never trying the turf before, the balls have to be feeling mighty big at 4pm on Wednesday for that to get punched.

As much as I want to single Idiot Proof (and no not because of the name) with the turn back of a 1/2 furlong and it looks like he could go 44/3 and easily win, I worry about this horse getting tired on the cushion and the 1 or 6 cruising by. 1 is also getting 4lbs on equal TG's numbers, which would be good for about 1 length

hockey2315 05-21-2007 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
HIGHLY considering singling Casual Thunder in the first leg. As much as I want to get sucked into Taylor's Route and Our Partner, I just can't do it. 5 is a rat, 1 is coming back after 11 days and shipping.....8 is a little scary but the board will tell me everything I need to know about the 6, Casual Thunder is 8/5 or 7/5 unload because of 2nd time Canani....

Casual Thunder = Hanger

Scav 05-22-2007 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
Casual Thunder = Hanger


I know, I KNOW.....but, he is the fastest horse in the race that looks to be loaded with speed and 2nd time Canini.

The 2 is a REAL sneaky horse in that race. Race has speed, I hate the jock because I am going to be 5w going into the final turn but Lewis (trainer) has win %'s of 18% (dirt to turf) and 19% (1st time turf) and huge ROI's (3.65 and 4.70) respectively. That is out of 67 samples and 43 samples also. There is a couple jock changes I am praying for on Wednesday, that is one of them, along with Pick Vic in the 7th.

Lava 05-22-2007 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481
Ahh i think that is a good assumption hooves, I just threw it out there. Always a fun way to attack it because it allows us to go much broader as a group then we could as a single person(well at least me it does.) You never know we could get some people to jump in late.

I would be up for it

hockey2315 05-22-2007 12:23 AM

Does someone want to organize it? I'd be interested. . .

letswastemoney 05-22-2007 04:04 AM

I like Taylor's Route and Surf Town in the 3rd

I don't remember though if Mud Route a good turf sire.

I like Surf Town simply because he looks like he has plenty of room for improvement.

tanner12oz 05-22-2007 05:57 AM

id play in a pool....

Rootdog1 05-22-2007 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I know, I KNOW.....but, he is the fastest horse in the race that looks to be loaded with speed and 2nd time Canini.

The 2 is a REAL sneaky horse in that race. Race has speed, I hate the jock because I am going to be 5w going into the final turn but Lewis (trainer) has win %'s of 18% (dirt to turf) and 19% (1st time turf) and huge ROI's (3.65 and 4.70) respectively. That is out of 67 samples and 43 samples also. There is a couple jock changes I am praying for on Wednesday, that is one of them, along with Pick Vic in the 7th.


the 3rd is very tough. I do like Casual Thunder on figs and connections but hate that he is 8 yrs old with one win. Still have not decided, using 3 of these 4......Behind The Magic, Duty Roster, Our Partner, Casual Thunder. One thing for sure, the pace will be quick....so look for those that will crumble trying to keep up (not necessarily those that will be on the lead) and toss them.

Scav 05-22-2007 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rootdog1
the 3rd is very tough. I do like Casual Thunder on figs and connections but hate that he is 8 yrs old with one win. Still have not decided, using 3 of these 4......Behind The Magic, Duty Roster, Our Partner, Casual Thunder. One thing for sure, the pace will be quick....so look for those that will crumble trying to keep up (not necessarily those that will be on the lead) and toss them.

I am considering two tickets. one with CT singled and deepness around, and then two others that are skinnier in other legs....

I fully expect this thing to pay handsomely, given the sequence, no gimme's

Scav 05-22-2007 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rootdog1
the 3rd is very tough. I do like Casual Thunder on figs and connections but hate that he is 8 yrs old with one win. Still have not decided, using 3 of these 4......Behind The Magic, Duty Roster, Our Partner, Casual Thunder. One thing for sure, the pace will be quick....so look for those that will crumble trying to keep up (not necessarily those that will be on the lead) and toss them.

Don't get sucked into Magic, 11 days and wasn't that impressive. Duty Roster is one that I have talked about, and is awful intriging

ArlJim78 05-22-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Don't get sucked into Magic, 11 days and wasn't that impressive. Duty Roster is one that I have talked about, and is awful intriging

i wouldn't use Behind the Magic, I've got him a cut below several in here.
I would use but definitely not single Casual Thunder, no way would I trust that one with the numerous past disappoints.

Why has no one mentioned River Isalnds, improved last start and now makes third start off layoff, second turf start and was game last time while finishing ahead of Casual Thunder last time.

I would also use the O'neil horse on the outside, Surf Town. I think he could be dangerous.

Scav 05-22-2007 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
i wouldn't use Behind the Magic, I've got him a cut below several in here.
I would use but definitely not single Casual Thunder, no way would I trust that one with the numerous past disappoints.

Why has no one mentioned River Isalnds, improved last start and now makes third start off layoff, second turf start and was game last time while finishing ahead of Casual Thunder last time.

I would also use the O'neil horse on the outside, Surf Town. I think he could be dangerous.

Yes and Yes, hard to go four deep in this race though because of races 4, 6 and 8. Especially with race 3 having the most available information (current odds, hot horses, exotics will pays, WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING IN?) I am really trying to go 2 deep, 3 at the most

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-22-2007 06:50 PM

the way i see it......
race 3 3 our partner
7 rival islands
2 duty roster
race 4 2 kooky kelly
3 steel kitten
10 harrete topper t town sorry folks..

race 5 8 bersconie..my single

race 6 8 lotta gamble lost all chance in last derby winning connections
10 weft cassidy owns trains
1 andf 1a

race 7 6 shem
1 pick vic
4 idiot proof

race 8 2 gotta go sal ...... win it all horse off the claim with impossible post last
3 star quality scrappy effort last out must use
5 obi naki mig fits conditions well..

thats it good luck all 324bucks and scav kiss my ass..

Coach Pants 05-22-2007 06:53 PM

Time constraints prevent me from playing. :(

Good luck to all of you...but i'm hoping it triple carries. :D

Scav 05-22-2007 07:11 PM

I just realized while reading a DRF article while Nakatini has been soo cold, friggin Stevens was his jock agent. Like he has the time for that crap. Nak fired his ass, expect him to heat up soon

Scav 05-22-2007 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
the way i see it......
race 3 4 exsploited dream jt roi very good race 1 back wins it
2 pieces of paradice only one with a back fig
5 friendly type ran int a 107 6f respect

race4 pp 2 kooky kitty ..metz is slick
pp 3 steel kitten
pp 10 hareete topper ..tommy town and enriqez are deadly in this condition.pre o neal..

race 5 8 bersconie..my single

race 6 8 lotta gamble lost all chance in last derby winning connections
10 weft cassidy owns trains
1 andf 1a

race 7 6 shem
1 pick vic
4 idiot proof

race 8 2 gotta go sal ...... win it all horse off the claim with impossible post last
3 star quality scrappy effort last out must use
5 obi naki mig fits conditions well..

thats it good luck all 324bucks

You actually look at the form, You didn't handicap race 3....

infield_line 05-22-2007 07:23 PM

A Very Modest Stab at the Luckiest Day of Your Life
 
R3 3 running well at the class level, and this sire is on fire 1st time turf

R4 5 should improve second time out... 9 or 10 could win but gotta take stand

R5 4 improving 3yo, good turf sire, 2nd off layoff
5 again, improving 3yr, freshened, working well
8 pedigree and strong first effort

R6 1a dropping off decent fig from very fast race
8 big drop working lights out

R7 2 been running against very tough, handled pace to str at G2, freshened
3 mullins, 2nd of layoff, not a quitter
4 should win, but the kind of single that burns me every time, cut cost or go wider if you believe

R8 2 back class, 1st after claim with trainer that produces winners, drop
3 2nd after layoff, seems to like poly OK, trainer, R/S picks up a pace meltdown
10 dropping from open to state bred (I know, not that big a deal in CA) fast fractions, could shake loose

$108 $36 if you single Idiot Proof...

Should be fun....

I/L

pmacdaddy 05-22-2007 07:46 PM

OK. Here's my shot.

R3 - 6,7
R4 - 3,5,10
R5 - 1,2,4,8
R6 - 1
R7 - 4,6
R8 - 3,5
$192

Good Luck!!

Scav 05-22-2007 08:06 PM

FYI, Pick Six Central on TVG right now, we can at least see who we can toss out when they LOVE a horse tomorrow. Shrup, Simon(decent) and Carothers


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