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ateamstupid 05-15-2007 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I think I'm the only guy on here who likes Bailey.
He's the kind of guy I would want on my team, confident, knowledgeable, successful.

Apparently you have not met Playa. Bailey is like a father figure to him.

fpsoxfan 05-15-2007 04:20 PM

Jerry....stick to riding horses....you are NOT a business man. Just like Michael Jordan who should have stuck to playing basketball.

ArlJim78 05-15-2007 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Apparently you have not met Playa. Bailey is like a father figure to him.

Really?:eek:

For the record I was not one of these gaga guys who would go nuts and bet every 3-5 shot that he rode. I'm just talking about in general how he comports himself. Most people see him as arrogant, I just see it as confident.

fpsoxfan 05-15-2007 04:20 PM

Jerry....stick to riding horses....you are NOT a business man. Just like Michael Jordan who should have stuck to playing basketball.

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-15-2007 04:46 PM

good 'ole Jerry...


liked him better when.....





never mind!

Norfolk 05-15-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Bailey's pomposity drips from every word he writes or utters on this, and most other, topics.. His failure to acknowledge the realities of Steve Wynn's intent in this endeavor is the critical mass in the depth of his eagnerness to shill for them..

I am not sure Jerry wrote that by himself. I am sure their Washington based PR firm had a lot to do with the writing. Did you notice that they never mentioned Richard Fields the driving force behind this group? I find that act of omission to be very interesting.

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2007 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Norfolk
I am not sure Jerry wrote that by himself. I am sure their Washington based PR firm had a lot to do with the writing. Did you notice that they never mentioned Richard Fields the driving force behind this group? I find that act of omission to be very interesting.


Pretty good points all around. In fact.....better than " pretty good. "

10 pnt move up 05-15-2007 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by saratoga guy
"To further augment our understanding and connection to New York horsemen, we have held several 'listening sessions' with breeders, trainers and jockeys to ensure that our proposal addresses the needs of each of those constituencies."

Sure would be nice if they were equally as concerned with "listening" to the fans...


ain't that the truth, its pretty amazing that the true funders of the sport, their livelihood and everything else that is racing does not even have a place in their plan........

of course are we really needed with one arm bandits?

PPerfectfan 05-15-2007 11:59 PM

F Bailey!!!! He gets on my last one good nerve. And lord how many times are they gonna play is DVD commercial?? When he says "The Fans!!!" I want to vomit. Worst decision Richard Mandella ever made.....Putting him on "my" boy PP for the BC!!!! I tried to figure out how to cut him off of PP in the pictures i have but none ever came out looking right, so I just stick to looking at PP and not F'ing Bailey!! ummm did I mention I dont care for Jerry Bailey??? ;)

docicu3 05-16-2007 12:11 AM

Jerry Bailey has the sincerity and eloquence of another famous sports personality when he waxes poetic like this.

He carries all the credibility and statesmanship of Vince McMahon when he begs for an audience in public forums where it is obvious that his mother never told him that it is better to remain silent and have people think your a selfish tight opportunistic fool than to open one's mouth and leave no doubt!!!!

pointman 05-16-2007 12:14 AM

Bailey really is an arrogant ass. I would love to know how much he is getting paid for this. Agree with the poster who said he did not write it, have a feeling some of the words in there are not in his regular vocabulary. Oh yeah, really, Steve Wynn really cares about horse racing.

VOL JACK 05-16-2007 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Bailey's pomposity drips from every word he writes or utters on this, and most other, topics.. His failure to acknowledge the realities of Steve Wynn's intent in this endeavor is the critical mass in the depth of his eagnerness to shill for them..

Ya'll yankees have to stop with the fancy words; "pomposity". Everytime Byk decides to post, I have to reach for the dictionary.
"utters" now that is word a Tenn. boy knows about. LOL...

MisterB 05-16-2007 08:39 AM

What's funny, these people come to him for his name. Fortunately, or unfortunately, he is a good businessman. He has no bills, and pays cash for everything, even his new house in Saratoga. So you, or we may not like his team, but he has been very successful, and continues loading the money truck.

ELA 05-16-2007 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterB
What's funny, these people come to him for his name. Fortunately, or unfortunately, he is a good businessman. He has no bills, and pays cash for everything, even his new house in Saratoga. So you, or we may not like his team, but he has been very successful, and continues loading the money truck.

I believe different people have very different standards and definitions of success. Personally, the size of one's estate or the digits to the left of the decimal point on one's balance sheet, to me, is a small slice in the pie of measuring success. On the other hand, who should be sitting in judgement of success anyway? And, on that note, what does successs have to do with this? In my mind, very little.

Sure, a no asset, no name, unsuccessful company could not come in and be awarded the franchise. That is not really the issue.

People may or may not like Jerry Bailey as a person, spokesman, business, or otherwise. He may or may not be qualified for said positions and roles. However, what is indisputable is that Jerry Bailey will go down as one of the greatest jockeys this sport has ever seen. However, that too has nothing to do with this issue.

Personally, I don't see why being a great jockey equates to knowing the business side of the racing and racetrack industry, nor do I see how it equates to knowing what the backside issues and needs are. I don't think Bailey's experience as a jockey -- and being a great jockey -- connects with him being a great businessman. Obviously many people here feel the same way.

BTW, just as an FYI, Jerry Bailey is one of the few big name, successful jockeys I do not personally know, he is not a friend or client, or anything of the like. I've never been a fan of his, and that doesn't mean I have any dislike for him. However, strictly as a jockey, I don't think anything really needs to be said.

Eric

kenny p 05-16-2007 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterB
What's funny, these people come to him for his name. Fortunately, or unfortunately, he is a good businessman. He has no bills, and pays cash for everything, even his new house in Saratoga. So you, or we may not like his team, but he has been very successful, and continues loading the money truck.

He sure does. When you are as cheap as he supposedly is, the money adds up fast. As a guy who hustled tips for over 31 yrs I cant stand cheapskates.Ive been stiffed by alot of famous people over the years. A pox on all of them.

blackthroatedwind 05-16-2007 10:42 AM

You got to the heart of it....Bailey was absolutely one of the greatest riders of all time. He was honestly a pleasure to watch ride. He was confident, he was prepared, and he was almost always in the right place. However, while he has every right to attempt to cash in on his name, that does not preclude the rest of us from seeing through his remarks. From what I have seen in this thread he doesn't seem to be fooling anybody.

I guess the biggest thing that bothers me is how in one minute he could say that it was going to be great to have the NY Yankees running racing and then when they dropped out he didn't skip a beat in endorsing a carpetbagging Casino mogul. At that point it is nearly impossible to defend that he believes in anything more than the allmighty dollar......and that is just the point about this entire bidding process that should scare everybody. Who are the bidders that really care about racing and who is merely being lured by slot dollars. Since none of them, save NYRA, had any interest whatsoever in 1997 when the franchise was up for renewal, or in any prior years, why should we suddenly believe they care about racing now?

MisterB 05-16-2007 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny p
He sure does. When you are as cheap as he supposedly is, the money adds up fast. As a guy who hustled tips for over 31 yrs I cant stand cheapskates.Ive been stiffed by alot of famous people over the years. A pox on all of them.


Maybe he is just thrifty;)

I hear ya, my wife tossed dishes for several years, the stories she tells are something. She refers to them as still having their first communion money.:D

cmorioles 05-16-2007 11:32 AM

I really couldn't care less who gets the franchise, except for one nagging thing. I don't see any way bettors won't take it in the shorts if anyone not named NYRA wins.

Solari 05-16-2007 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Who are the bidders that really care about racing and who is merely being lured by slot dollars. Since none of them, save NYRA, had any interest whatsoever in 1997 when the franchise was up for renewal, or in any prior years, why should we suddenly believe they care about racing now?

Thanks, that is the question that should be asked of all of these groups. Where were they before slots came into the equation?? Oh, I know they were home thinking up ways to save racing.


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