Nice, I'll tell the people in Inwood that.

Depends on the region your from.

NYC/Long Island people think it's - Anything above Poughkeepsie and they include EVERYWHERE. Albany to Canton Ny and from Albany to Buffalo and everything in between.

Hate to say it, but I'm sure the term was coined from a "city folk" point of view. Which makes the downstate definition accurate as it is a downstate term.

Some debate as to where the line of demarkation is, but I believe it is really a term to seperate New York State into two parts Upstate and NY Metro.

When I lived "upstate", I don't believe I ever even used the term.

Where is it? Who the hell cares?
I have another question though, where the hell does this thread belong?
Answer: I don't know for sure....but I KNOW it isn't in the paddock.

yeah i'm in upstate and that's anything north of Spring Valley or Yonkers.

To quote the great Nelson...

"Ha ha."

By the way, great link in your signature, you baby gorilla. ;)

I know the folk in Amsterdam say there's nothing west of Fonda worth while...but what do those city people know!

Outside of the Thruway exit in Amsterdam, what is Amsterdam worth? ;) Kidding, kidding.

No need to kid! :) to answer your question, not much! :eek:

They feel "west of Fonda" like NYC feels about upstate N.Y.

Didn't Amsterdam have a Moxie Factory a long time ago?

Not sure...but it was once known as the "rug capital of the world."

I do like that term.
I think I am going to have to start using it more often.

I went to St. Lawrence University. THAT is Upstate...less than miles from the Canadian border.

We used to refer to anything south of Albany as Downstate.

Im just a texas dumbo when it comes to NY but I would like to know what percent of the state population in within 75 mi of NY city? In my travels to BCfishing I was told that 90% of Canadas population is within 50 mi of the US border.

Jeff Foxworthy on Upstate NY

If you consider it a sport to gather your food by drilling through 36 inches of ice and sitting there all day hoping that the food will swim by, you might live in Upstate New York.

If you're proud that your region makes the national news 96 nights each year because Saranac Lake is the coldest spot in the nation, you might live in Upstate New York.

If your local Dairy Queen is closed from September through May, you might live in Upstate New York.

If you instinctively walk like a penguin for six months out of the year, you might live in Upstate New York.

If your dad's suntan stops at a line curving around the middle of his forehead, you might live in Upstate New York.

If you have worn shorts and a parka at the same time, you might live in Upstate New York.

If you have had a lengthy telephone conversation with someone who dialed a wrong number, you might live in Upstate New York.

YOU KNOW YOU ARE A TRUE UPSTATE NEW YORKER WHEN:

1. "Vacation" means going South past Albany for the weekend.

2. You measure distance in hours.

3. You know several people who have hit a deer more than once.

4. You often switch from "heat" to "A/C" in the same day and back again.

5. You can drive 65 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard, without flinching.

6. You design your kid's Halloween costume to fit over a snowsuit.

7. Driving is better in the winter because the potholes are filled with snow

8. You know all 4 seasons: almost winter, winter, still winter and road construction.

9. Your idea of creative landscaping is a statue of a deer next to your blue spruce.

10. Down South to you means Albany.

11. Your 4th of July picnic was moved indoors due to frost.

12. You have more miles on your snow blower than your car.

13. You find 0 degrees "a little chilly."

14. You actually understand these jokes, and you forward them to all your Upstate New York friends.

I wonder where Tomy Soprano thinks upstate is...?

thats funny...cause I am in VT, and I find it easier to just say I am almost in Canada....they understand it more.